Comments on: Lessons in democracy … http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/ Opinion and analysis on global politics, events and the people in power ... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:59:16 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Catrina http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37203 Catrina Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:01:42 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37203 New post up. <b><a href="http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/policy-and-procedure/" rel="nofollow">Policy and Procedure, Caribbean Style</a></b> New post up.
Policy and Procedure, Caribbean Style

]]> By: Chris B http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37202 Chris B Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:21:42 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37202 More on the Honduran coup d'etat <a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/OBAMA-S-FIRST-COUP-D-ETAT-by-shamus-cooke-090628-822.html" rel="nofollow">Op Ed News</a> More on the Honduran coup d’etat

Op Ed News

]]> By: jaundiced view http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37201 jaundiced view Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:00:48 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37201 Jen - I don't know what you mean, I'm sure ... :-) Jen – I don’t know what you mean, I’m sure … :-)

]]> By: jaundiced view http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37200 jaundiced view Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:00:08 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37200 Transcript of an interview Obama did yesterday on the US climate bill's progress. You can sense the extent of the difficulties with the various lobbies - and loonies - he's having to work through (many in his own party). Reading between the lines, it seems he thinks he's right at the maximum level of change possible, and another bold step at this stage would be one too many, and the bill would fail. It must be like trying to work with 100 Steve Fieldings and 85 Barnaby Joyces. Kucinich is right in his reasoning against the US bill, but Obama is the one having to get something at least acceptable as a starting point to Copenhagen. But just as well there are some Kukiniches around to work on the uninformed in the houses in the meantime, and for what happens after. One thing Obama suggested was that there had been a lot of progress recently with Reps opinions. That's encouraging. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/us/politics/29climate-text.html?pagewanted=all Transcript of an interview Obama did yesterday on the US climate bill’s progress. You can sense the extent of the difficulties with the various lobbies – and loonies – he’s having to work through (many in his own party). Reading between the lines, it seems he thinks he’s right at the maximum level of change possible, and another bold step at this stage would be one too many, and the bill would fail. It must be like trying to work with 100 Steve Fieldings and 85 Barnaby Joyces.

Kucinich is right in his reasoning against the US bill, but Obama is the one having to get something at least acceptable as a starting point to Copenhagen. But just as well there are some Kukiniches around to work on the uninformed in the houses in the meantime, and for what happens after. One thing Obama suggested was that there had been a lot of progress recently with Reps opinions. That’s encouraging.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/us/politics/29climate-text.html?pagewanted=all

]]> By: Chris B http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37199 Chris B Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:00:06 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37199 707 HusseinStWorm <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/28/manuel-zelaya-arrested-ho_n_221961.html" rel="nofollow">The Huffington Post Honuran Coup</a> Eventually those right wing bastards would over through a legitimate government. At least George Bush is not there to legitimise the take over. You know to save the rich. 707 HusseinStWorm The Huffington Post Honuran Coup Eventually those right wing bastards would over through a legitimate government. At least George Bush is not there to legitimise the take over. You know to save the rich.

]]> By: Jen http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37198 Jen Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:56:27 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37198 jv @706.. :lol: jv @706..
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]]> By: jaundiced view http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37197 jaundiced view Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:46:27 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37197 Hussein StWorm Kucinich doesn't hold back does he? I don't think he's made too many friends in the US coal lobby or among the nuclear born-again, with those remarks. Good on him, though. It's all true. The question is what do we do until the rest of the political structure catches up? Same here in Aus. Should we stay or should we go? I think we have to go to Copenhagen with something rather than nothing as our own plan. It would be nice to see the targets upped before the vote, but I can't see it now. Hussein StWorm
Kucinich doesn’t hold back does he? I don’t think he’s made too many friends in the US coal lobby or among the nuclear born-again, with those remarks. Good on him, though. It’s all true. The question is what do we do until the rest of the political structure catches up? Same here in Aus. Should we stay or should we go? I think we have to go to Copenhagen with something rather than nothing as our own plan. It would be nice to see the targets upped before the vote, but I can’t see it now.

]]> By: HusseinStWorm http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37196 HusseinStWorm Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:13:11 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37196 Dennis Kucinich Lays Out Why He Voted Against Clean Energy Act http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/10478 Troops oust Honduran president in feared coup http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/troops-oust-honduran-president-in-feared-coup-20090628-d1cf.html Dennis Kucinich Lays Out Why He Voted Against Clean Energy Act
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/10478

Troops oust Honduran president in feared coup
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/troops-oust-honduran-president-in-feared-coup-20090628-d1cf.html

]]> By: jaundiced view http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37194 jaundiced view Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:52:26 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37194 On Michael Jackson - can't understand the outpourings. He's obviously touched a lot of kids. On Michael Jackson – can’t understand the outpourings. He’s obviously touched a lot of kids.

]]> By: jaundiced view http://politic.osm.net/2009/06/lessons-in-democracy/comment-page-8/#comment-37193 jaundiced view Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:50:37 +0000 http://politic.osm.net/?p=741#comment-37193 Hi there all - Good to see there's still plenty of vintage being spilt on rugs Jen! I find sometimes it's safer taken directly from the bottle, rather than from a fragile, top-heavy glass. :-) Since my absence tripping around last week I hope everyone is feeling a bit more positive as I am about the prospects for Copenhagen now the other Brown came out relatively strongly in the UK, and Barack seems to be cutting through with his party a bit more - and Penny Wong spoke out in support of Gordon Brown. I'm assuming Brown essentially endorses the Stern reports. Am I right? Hi there all – Good to see there’s still plenty of vintage being spilt on rugs Jen! I find sometimes it’s safer taken directly from the bottle, rather than from a fragile, top-heavy glass. :-)
Since my absence tripping around last week I hope everyone is feeling a bit more positive as I am about the prospects for Copenhagen now the other Brown came out relatively strongly in the UK, and Barack seems to be cutting through with his party a bit more – and Penny Wong spoke out in support of Gordon Brown. I’m assuming Brown essentially endorses the Stern reports. Am
I right?

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