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Voting is underway in the Republic Caucuses in Iowa. With less than 1% of the count Ron Paul lead the pack. With 3% of the count Rick Santorum took lead position. With 6% counted Rick Santorum held 1st. place with 1,229 votes just 25 votes ahead of Ron Paul, but just now the count clicked over to 11% and Ron Paul takes the lead, followed by Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann.

Live results here.

UPDATE: Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum share dibs on first place, Ron Paul not far behind. Newt Gingrich in forth place closes the door on the Iowa circus leaving Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann alone in the dark.

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  1. 1101
    Chris B says:

    The dwarf has the best leading role a dwarf has ever had and plays the part really well.

  2. 1102
    Gaffhook says:

    How many times tonight will Jimmy the Jaw say “I don’t recall” at the Leveson enquiry?

  3. 1103
    paddy says:

    I doubt he’ll say it once *tonight* Gaffy.
    He’s not on till Tues. :lol:
    Tonight we get the Russian.

  4. 1104
    Katielou says:

    This Slipper business is as ugly as it gets in politics. That’s all.

  5. 1105
    paddy says:

    Meanwhile…..Firstdog has gone all ‘educated’ and is spouting middle English at us.
    Chaucer no less. :lol:

  6. 1106
    Gaffhook says:

    That’s not fair Paddy, i’m on top of the gumtree and some bastard cuts it down. :sad:

  7. 1107
    Chris B says:

    Open government advocates accused a conservative legislative group Monday of falsely claiming tax-exempt status while doing widespread lobbying.

    Advocacy group Common Cause said Monday it had filed an IRS complaint accusing ALEC of masquerading as a public charity. ALEC is formed as a nonprofit that brings together lawmakers and private sector organizations to develop legislation and policy.

    ALEC says its work is not lobbying.

    Common Cause disagrees. “It tells the IRS in its tax returns that it does no lobbying, yet it exists to pass profit-driven legislation in statehouses all over the country that benefits its corporate members,” said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause, in a statement. “ALEC is not entitled to abuse its charitable tax status to lobby for private corporate interests, and stick the bill to the American taxpayer.”

    Common Cause wants an IRS audit of ALEC’s work, penalties and the payment of back taxes.

    More here…

  8. 1108
    Chris B says:

    More trouble for Murdoch.

    Britain’s broadcast regulator announced Monday it was investigating email hacking by Rupert Murdoch’s Sky News, only minutes before the channel’s head of news acknowledged that his station had broken the law and misled a senior judge.

    An Ofcom spokesman said Monday that the investigation would center on “fairness and privacy issues” stemming from Sky News’ admission that it had authorized journalists to hack into email accounts to score exclusives.

    Tweet it guys.

  9. 1109
    Chris B says:

    Planned Parenthood Worried It’s The Target Of New Undercover Sting,

    A string of suspicious incidents at Planned Parenthood clinics across the country has given the organization reason to believe that anti-abortion activists are targeting it in a new organized sting operation.

    According to Planned Parenthood spokesperson Chloe Cooney, clinics in at least 11 states have reported two dozen or more “hoax visits” over the past several weeks, in which a woman walks into a clinic, claims to be pregnant and asks a particular pattern of provocative questions about sex-selective abortions, such as how soon she can find out the gender of the fetus, by what means and whether she can schedule an abortion if she’s having a girl.

    While patient privacy laws prohibit Planned Parenthood from offering specific details about the visits and where they occurred, Cooney told The Huffington Post that the incidents are so unusual and so similar to each other that they have raised concerns among the organization’s executives that the visits are being recorded as part of a concerted anti-Planned Parenthood campaign.

    “For years opponents of reproductive health and Planned Parenthood have engaged in secret videotaping tactics with fictitious patient scenarios and selective editing in an attempt to promote misinformation about Planned Parenthood and our services,” Cooney said. “As with the prior instances, we anticipate that once again this group, likely in coordination with a broad range of anti-abortion leaders, will soon launch a propaganda campaign with the goal of discrediting Planned Parenthood, and, ultimately, restricting women’s health.”

    Tweet it guys.

    More here…

  10. 1110
    Chris B says:

    Can whoever is our moderater etc drop me an email.

  11. 1111
    Katielou says:

    You can read the full civil claim against Slipper here.


    I know it’s inappropriate to demonise the alleged victim but this is a weak and imo somewhat unbelievable claim.

  12. 1112
    Gaffhook says:

    I think it is the last desperate throw of the dice by the monkey before he gets rolled. Or to use LNP terms, stabbed in the back. :mrgreen:

  13. 1113
    paddy says:

    I don’t think I’ll ever be able to look at twitter quite the same way again. :mrgreen:

  14. 1114
    Katielou says:

    Nothing to do with politics……

    OMG ticsters. Did I tell you that before The West Wing and way before The Wire, I was addicted to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I consider it one of the best series ever? I follow everything Joss Whedon does, and now, I am so excited about The Avengers. This review is fantastic.


    Oh squee!!!!!!!!

  15. 1115
    Flaneur says:

    “Buffy the Musical” was the best piece of TV ever made! EVER!

  16. 1116
    paddy says:

    OMG! Sheesh KL, I’m feeling decidedly old and foolish.
    I’d seen references all over the place to “The Avengers”….
    :lol: I thought they were talking about a remake of the Brit TV series. (Blush)
    Note to self. Click on link next time. :mrgreen:
    I’ll now have to check out the film.

    BTW. On other matters to do with far older politics.
    “The Borgias” is fabulous TV.
    Available in the usual places online. But I’m not sure if it’s running on Oz TV anywhere.

  17. 1117
    Jen says:

    hey KL – I well remember our conversation about your great love for the Buffy series – glad your life can be complete :)
    will check it out and report back

  18. 1118
    Chris B says:

    Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if it’s upheld by court.

    Democrats plan to force vote on Arizona immigration law if it’s upheld by court

    Senate Democrats are making plans to force a floor vote on legislation that would invalidate Arizona’s controversial immigration statute if the Supreme Court upholds the law this summer.

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) will announce the fallback legislation at a hearing on the Arizona law Tuesday, a day before the Supreme Court hears oral arguments in a suit to determine whether Arizona had the authority to enact the 2010 state crackdown.

    Great tactic.
    More here…

  19. 1119
    Chris B says:

    1111 Katielou Its not as if its a Catholic Priest or anthying.

  20. 1120
    Chris B says:

    Oops! Spellcheck broke.

  21. 1121
    HarryH says:

    James Murdoch is one of the most unconvincing spinners i have ever seen.

    He just reeks of untruthfulness.

    If any Murdoch hack ever has the nerve to accuse a politician or one of their other targets/victims of spinning/lieing , that person should just look them straight in the face and say “am i James Murdoch standard?”.

  22. 1122
    paddy says:

    James Murdoch is certainly a lousy liar.
    It would be nice to see him copping some serious flack for his smug contempt for the truth. (Doubtful that it will happen though.)
    I guess the best we can hope for is the breaking up of the Murdoch empire in a year or two. :-(

  23. 1123
    Chris B says:

    The Best of Tyrion Lannister – Game of Thrones.
    The “Imp” or Dwarf Outstanding performance.

  24. 1124
    Chris B says:

    Rupert Murdoch Leveson Inquiry Hearing Is Decades In The Making.

    Rupert Murdoch’s two-day, nine-and-a-half hour appearance before the Leveson Inquiry on Wednesday and Thursday has the feeling of a potentially historic occasion.

    Murdoch will surely be questioned about phone hacking, as he was during his appearance before Parliament last July. Though the Leveson hearings have been much more in-depth, he is not likely to depart substantially from what he said then — that he was completely in the dark about the operation.

    But what could truly set the hearings apart is the possibility that Murdoch will be drawn out about the nearly hypnotic sway he has held over British cultural and political life for over 40 years.

    He will also be under oath.

    More here…

  25. 1125
    Katielou says:

    Chris B – Slipper is an Anglican priest.

    There’s much that seems ugly about this whole business. But Ashby being harassed? I don’t believe it. The texts look like unremarkable banter between gay men. Ashby told Slipper he was gay on their first meeting ffs – he’s a guy who is used to talking openly about sexual matters – and this invites this sort of sexual banter in return. The conversations he alleges are normal and frankly tame in the gay community, and I can’t believe he didn’t help it along. He knew what he was doing when he stayed in Slipper’s flat.

    What totally gives it away for me is him acting all innocent over the use of the term “f*ck buddy”. A 33 year old gay man who openly talks about it to someone (a Federal minister no less) he has just met? Oh please.

    Slipper will be gone over the rorting of entitlements it seems. But imo the civil suit is nothing more than an opportunistic grab for money from a nasty so and so. The media and Abbott have latched on to the law suit – playing on homophobia and distaste that exists in the community for behaviour by some gay men.

    I’m not supporting Slipper’s behaviour – he’s clearly been a hypocrite, and his family must be going through hell. But in the end that is none of my business, and no worse that the many heterosexual affairs that have and must go on with politicians.

    To be clear, rorting, if it is proven, is another matter entirely.

  26. 1126
    Chris B says:

    Please thank the Catholic church for throwing the US election to Obama.

    It’s that time, every four years, when the Catholic leadership tries to throw the US elections to the Republicans.

    Earlier this month, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops called for two weeks of public protest in June and July against what it sees as growing government encroachment on religious freedom.

    The protests are expected to include priests and nuns and thousands of Catholic parishioners. Some activists expect civil disobedience, which could lead to powerful images of priests and nuns being led away in hand restraints.

    Can’t be long now until they start cutting off communion to Democrats.

    More here…

  27. 1127
    Chris B says:

    1125 Katielou “Slipper will be gone over the rorting of entitlements it seems.” According to a driver on the ABC. Slipper was doing what everyone does. It helps speed things up.

  28. 1128
    Chris B says:

    Obama Holds Lead Nationally

    The Gallup daily tracking poll, which kicked off eight days ago with Mitt Romney leading by two points, now has President Obama in front by 7 points, 49% to 42%.

    Meanwhile, a new DailyKos/SEIU poll shows Obama leading Romney 49% to 44%.


  29. 1129
    Katielou says:

    Excellent Nick Davies piece on the dangers to the Cameron government from the latest evidence at Leveson.


  30. 1130
    Katielou says:

    This piece from the Indepedent also very good. It pulls out some of the most critical email exchanges about News’ dealings with the government.


  31. 1131
    Jen says:

    “The head of the Australian Anglican Catholic Church says Speaker Peter Slipper is a “complex” man who has taken a “strong” stand on “conservative moral issues” but has another side to his character.”

    well that’s one way of putting it.
    Total Prick would be another :)

  32. 1132
    Jen says:

    … because of his complete hypocrisy and lack of integrity politically. Which pretty much makes him like most of the others of course. :mad:

  33. 1133
    Gaffhook says:

    I have read those two articles and they are very good. I did not stay up and watch Mr Jay taking off Mr Murdochs pants after the lunch adjournment.

    I have read the transcript today of the afternoon sitting and he has got Jimmy the jaw to say things that i don’t realise he said or wanted to say.

    Lots on twitter were saying it was very boring but mr Jay has a very good method of actually coming in the back door when they all think he is knocking on the front door. He very slyly wedged Jimmy a couple of times and got him agreeing that he was getting the heads up about where the BskyB things were going while all the time trying to hotly deny it.
    I think by the time i went to bed Jimmy was up to 19 “i don’t recall” or similars.
    Thats quite remarkable for a 39 year old brain in charge of a very large corrupt empire.

    I think that at the select committee hearings either him or SeweRoo stated that they did not have lots of regular contact with brooks but last night Jimmy let slip that SeweRoo and Brooks were constantly in contact.
    Tonight will be a constant, I had nothing to do with that i left it to others or I don’t recall from the 81 year old corrupt brain.

  34. 1134
    Gaffhook says:

    SeweRoo sinks further in the Poo.

    The Local Authority Pension Fund Forum (LAPFF), whose members control £100bn of investments, said those with top-tier Class B voting stock were preparing to file a motion jointly with American shareholder group Christian Brothers Investment Services.
    They will call for an independent chairman to replace Mr Murdoch, to help address the “lax ethical culture and lack of effective board oversight” exposed by News Corporation’s “still emerging scandals”.
    Those scandals appeared to deepen on Tuesday, as Rupert Murdoch’s son James faced questions about his relationship with Jeremy Hunt, the Culture Secretary, around the time that News Corp was trying to take full control of BSkyB.


  35. 1135
    Gaffhook says:

    Looks like the fallout from Jimmys evidence last night is about to take a scalp.
    Ed Milliband calling on Jeremy Hunt to resign.


  36. 1136
    HarryH says:

    Was Young Jimmys performance a warning to Government to back the fuck off?

    I think we might know tonight.

    If Ol Rupe ups the ante and puts in successive PM’s like Young Jimmy did last night to Young Jeremy Hunt….i think it means he knows he is done and bitterness has taken over.

    If he clams up and “cannot recall” he may think last nights warning can do the trick.

    Personally, i think it’s all over for them. The genie is out of the bottle.

  37. 1137
    Gaffhook says:

    SeweRoo was very full of hubris last night and i am wondering if he actually realised he was giving evidence under oath even after swearing himself in. He was all over the place saying something one minute and 10 minutes later saying the exact opposite to what he had said previous.

    Mr Jay did a very good job of leading him out with things he probably will wish today he had not said.

    The USA is heavy in to it now as well.


  38. 1138
    Gaffhook says:

    Looks like the chickens are arriving home but there’s a problem. They are the size of emus and are kicking the shithouse down. Mr Cameron is sitting in it with his dacks down.

    What a tangled web they weave and of course nthing like this happens in Oz, no sir.


  39. 1139
    Gaffhook says:

    SeweRoo has revealed in his evidence that he met with David cameron on at least 5 occasions which Cameron has not revealed in his record of meetings. HaHa


  40. 1140
    Gaffhook says:

    Looks like now Jeremy Hunt will be burnt toast and Cameron may have some difficulty in explaining things as well.


  41. 1141
    Chris B says:

    1140 Is that Mike’s brother?

  42. 1142
    Chris B says:

    From Twitter: Hon Peter Slipper MP has released a statement saying cabcharge documents have all been completed by him and are clearly in his handwriting.

  43. 1143
    Katielou says:

    This is an excellent article about how Bubba Clinton is such a powerful campaingner for the Dems. He just wins for them.


  44. 1144
    Chris B says:

    Jeremy Hunt’s Top Civil Servant Refuses To Confirm He Authorised News Corp Contact.

    Jeremy Hunt’s top civil servant has refused to confirm the culture secretary’s claim that he approved the decision to allow his special adviser to act as the point of contact between the department and News Corporation.

    Appearing before the public accounts committee on Thursday morning, Jonathan Stephens, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport’s permanent secretary, was pressed ten times to explain his role in the affair.

    Stephens was asked by MPs whether he authorised Adam Smith, Hunt’s political adviser, to talk to News Corp at the time that the culture secretary was supposed to be acting as an impartial quasi-judicial adjudicator as to whether it should be allowed to buy BSkyB.

    Defending himself on Wednesday, Hunt told MPs that Stephens had authorised Smith to speak to News Corp. “Adam Smith was a part of the process that was authorised by the permanent secretary,” he said.

    More here…

  45. 1145
    Katielou says:

    Read Laura Tingle today. Without stating it definitively, she leaves the impression that the Slipper thing could well be a complete set up by the Libs. I find this whole mess just so awful. I can barely read anything about it.


  46. 1146
    Jen says:

    can you imagine Julia trying to slow-jam the news?
    this ones for you KatieLou http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2012/04/slow-jammin-the-news-with-president-barack-obama/

  47. 1147
    Jen says:

    KatieLou – I would be surprised not one iota to find that the Libs were behind the Slipper fiasco… however that does not exonerate Labor for elevating a known non-performing politician of dubious reputation to the position of Speaker.
    Typical self-interest over doing the right thing – and once again it backfires.
    If this Government started to show some integrity instead of populism and power at the expense of all else they would be in a much different position to the one they are in now . Elevating Slipper to Speaker was another example of this.

  48. 1148
    Katielou says:

    Leadership drama started again on twitter. Graham Richardson giving Gillard a month. Wake me when this is over.

  49. 1149
    Katielou says:

    Jen @ 1147

    Agree 100% Jen. The whole thing is a dreadful mess.

    I’ve recorded Obama on Fallon but haven’t watched it yet. I’ll catch it tonight after work. Man, when Australian politics is in the gutter, I can always drool over the current POTUS. Yummo.

  50. 1150
    Chris B says:

    Murdoch a threat to Cameron.

    Evidence of what looks suspiciously like a Grand Bargain between the Tories and the News empire could wreck the PM’s career.

    RUPERT Murdoch presented an impression of almost otherworldly innocence in Court 73 of London’s Royal Courts of Justice: harmless, cuddly, a bit forgetful for sure, but nevertheless a man of definite integrity. It was a charming event in its way. But watching this Oxford-educated showman, it was easy to forget one important truth. The newspapers Murdoch owns are under investigation on suspicion of crimes that include bribery, perversion of the course of justice, destruction of evidence, interception of emails, phone hacking and perjury.

    No fewer than 16 of his editors or senior journalists, along with one chief executive and 10 reporters, have been arrested. There are three active police investigations, as a result of which four police officers have been arrested, as have 15 others, including civil servants and members of the armed forces. In all, nearly 50 people have been arrested.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/murdoch-a-threat-to-cameron-20120426-1xnxl.html#ixzz1tCCj44AJ

  51. 1151
    Flaneur says:

    Have to disagree. Whatever the faults of Slipper outside parliament, he has made a very good Speaker. All this prejudging is the sickening bit. The bloke was elected as a representative of his electorate, and that is how he should be treated. Do we really need to go down the route of US politics where any indiscretion is a bar to public office?

    (On a related note, I’m also against the law that precludes those with criminal convictions being banned from office – let the voters decide if they want to be represented by a crim.)

    This use of the (civil) courts is the grubby bit. Remember, Abbott has form with these tactics – against Hanson.

    Regardless of what Slipper may have done, he still gets a point from me for sticking it up the LNP, and another one for being the best Speaker that I’ve ever seen in action.

  52. 1152
  53. 1153
    Jen says:

    Flanners –
    my comments are not a criticism of his ability as Speaker – he appears to relish the task and carries it out well … after all, both sides of the House hate his guts so he doesn’t have to appease any friends. But my understanding is that he didn’t get the nickname Slippery Pete for nothing, and that is why there were raised eyebrows about a fellow with his less-than-pure reputation being made Speaker by the very party he was elected to oppose.
    It’s all dodgy crap that typifies why so many people think politics is simply about who gets to hold onto power for themselves, and it undermines the real achievements Labor has made as they are once again mired down in sleazy shit.
    And they brought it all on themselves.
    Again. :(

  54. 1154
    Chris B says:

    1151 Flaneur I agree with your sentiments Flaneur.

  55. 1155
    Flaneur says:

    Your assessment of his character may be correct Jen, and that’d be reason enough to not vote for him in an election. But it has nothing to do with his performance in the House.

    Why is it sleazy to appoint (*) a disaffected member of the opposition to the Speakership – especially when he does it so well? [(*) I know it isn’t an appointment.] Would you be saying the same thing about the ALP if it was Bandt, Wilkie, Oakeshott or Windsor given the gong? What about Katter?

    If you were condemning Slipper’s actions in dumping his party to get the position, then I’d agree with that. Just as it was hard to fault Howard when he put Colston in as President of the Senate – the blame was with Colston.

  56. 1156
    Jen says:

    The issue for me Flanners is that a man of dubious repute was made Speaker. Full stop. It is the highest position in the parliament – and it doesn’t matter which side of politics they come from…I expect someone who is trustworthy and honourable in that role (slim pickings these days) :)0
    Slipper was made Speaker not because he was worthy but because it secured Labor a vote . The fact that he performed well is beside the point IMO.
    Having said that it is equally unedifying, and not at all surprising , that Abbott and co have done nothing but try and find dirt on him to bring him down . The whole thing stinks from start to wherever it finishes – who knows, apart from the fact that it will definitely be in the gutter.

  57. 1157
    Flaneur says:

    Fair enough Jen. Still, I don’t see it as unedifying as you do.

    In fact, I find the appointment of a Speaker from the government benches less than satisfactory, but that is a battle long since lost.
    But as soon as one side gets a majority, it’ll be back to business as usual and we won’t have to worry about the “Slipper Affair” again. ;-)

  58. 1158
    Chris B says:

    The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.

  59. 1159
    Chris B says:

    Jen 1156 “dubious repute” and you expect someone better from in politics????

  60. 1160
    Chris B says:

    Jen Look who the ALP is battling. The Liberal Party and Rupert Murdoch. Say no more!

  61. 1161
    Chris B says:

    President Obama didn’t call out Mitt Romney by name in a speech to a women group fundraiser in Washington Friday — but he brought back the Democratic “war on women” rhetoric in such a way that made the target clear.

    In stark and often direct terms, Obama painted the GOP as anti-women, and tied the party’s positions on women’s health across the country to its likely presidential nominee.

    “I’m always puzzled by this,” Obama said. “This is a party that says it prides itself on being rabidly anti-regulation. These are folks who claim to believe in freedom from government influence and meddling. But it doesn’t seem bother them when it comes to women’s health.”

    Pointing to GOP governors and legislatures across the country that have passed laws requiring ultrasounds before abortions, Obama said Republicans believe “women can’t be trusted to make their own decisions.”

    “It’s appalling,” Obama said, referring to a statement from Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett’s (R), who defended his state’s mandatory ultrasound measure by suggesting women simply “close your eyes.” “It’s offensive and it’s out of touch,” Obama said.

    More here…


  62. 1162
    Gaffhook says:

    Koo Stark looks like being the first cab off the rank in the US version of survivor hacking. SeweRoo will definitely be pooing his pants with a few more of these.


  63. 1163
    Gaffhook says:

    Max Mosely doing his bit to rid the world of the scourge of SeweRoo.
    He is offering the expense of legal aid to others who want to present evidence against the worlds greatest hacker.


  64. 1164
    Gaffhook says:

    Leveson tells UK PM Cameron to fuck off that Jeremy Hunt is not his problem.
    Polls also reveal that a ratio of 5 to 1 want Hunt to resign.

    Every time something like this is read it should be read twice. The second time substitute Tony Naybot and the Oz LNP

    A poll published on Friday night revealed that the public believes by a margin of five to one that Hunt should resign.

    The ComRes poll for the Independent found that 63% of those polled believe Hunt should resign, 12% disagree and 24% don’t know. The poll also gives Labour a five-point lead on 39%, the Tories 34%; the Lib Dems 10% and others 17%.

    By a 2-1 margin, people think the government is incompetent. Only 27 per cent agree that it is proving competent. By a margin of 67 to 21 per cent, the public believe that David Cameron and George Osborne are out of touch with ordinary people.


  65. 1165
  66. 1166
  67. 1167
    Chris B says:

    How Apple Sidesteps Billions in Global Taxes.

    RENO, Nev. — Apple, the world’s most profitable technology company, doesn’t design iPhones here. It doesn’t run AppleCare customer service from this city. And it doesn’t manufacture MacBooks or iPads anywhere nearby.
    Yet, with a handful of employees in a small office here in Reno, Apple has done something central to its corporate strategy: it has avoided millions of dollars in taxes in California and 20 other states.

    Apple’s headquarters are in Cupertino, Calif. By putting an office in Reno, just 200 miles away, to collect and invest the company’s profits, Apple sidesteps state income taxes on some of those gains.

    California’s corporate tax rate is 8.84 percent. Nevada’s? Zero.

    Tax the corporations!


  68. 1168
    Chris B says:

    1167 Now there is a vote winning election issue. If I ever saw one.

  69. 1169
    Katielou says:

    Not for Obama Chris. It’s a state tax issue. The corporate tax rate imposed by the US government is 35%. There’s lots of stupid loopholes there too. But each state has its own tax regime as well, and that what that example is talking about.

  70. 1170
    Katielou says:

    Someone I know works for a union. They say always before a federal election, the union is asked to direct funds to Labor. It always coincides with an upcoming election. The union received tax request is the past days. Could be Labor is just preparing for the worst possible outcome, or could be they are expecting an election soon.

  71. 1171
    Gaffhook says:

    Former BBC boss heaps dung pile on Jeremy Hunt. Bye Bye Jeremy, time to fuck off.


  72. 1172
    Gaffhook says:

    Could this be the straw that broke the back of David Cameron.
    SeweRoo dumped on him and former PMs at his evidence. I get the feeling that he knows he is going down and is prepared to take a couple of big fish with him. The link will be Mr Hunt.

    Former Nooz editor Mandy Rice Davies and Christine Keeler is about to follow SeweRoos dump with the release of all her communications now that everyone connected with and up to Cameron have come out and denied/covered up the alleged deals for BskyB. Pass the Popcorn.


  73. 1173
    Katielou says:

    I’m seriously thinking there’s something to my rumour @ 1170.

    As David Marr says, this poor woman Gillard is velcro. She is, and Labor is done. I have lost all hope. Labor will be creamed and will take a decade to rebuild. I will just have to look away when Abbott is PM.

  74. 1174
    Chris B says:

    Obama, Bill And Hillary Clinton Deepen Political And Policy Ties.

    Once a tense rivalry, the relationship between President Barack Obama and Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton has evolved into a genuine political and policy partnership. Both sides have a strong incentive in making the alliance work, especially in an election year.

    For Obama, Bill Clinton is a fundraising juggernaut, a powerful reminder to voters that a Democrat ran the White House the last time the economy was thriving. For the spotlight-loving former president, stronger ties with the White House and campaign headquarters mean he gets a hand in shaping the future of the party he led for nearly a decade.

    Obama’s re-election campaign has put Bill Clinton on notice that he will be used as a top surrogate, further evidence of how far the two camps have come since the bitter days of the 2008 Democratic primary between Obama and Hillary Clinton, now his secretary of state.

    The current and former president teamed up to address supporters in Virginia Sunday night, the first of three joint appearances at fundraisers for Obama’s campaign. The Obama campaign expected more than 500 people at a reception at the home of Terry McAuliffe, a close adviser to both Clintons and one of the most ardent protectors of their political brand, with tickets starting at $1,000. Eighty people paid $20,000 a head for a dinner afterward.

    Clinton told the crowd that Obama is “beating the clock” to restore the economy to health. Digging out of similar financial holes has historically taken five to 10 years, Clinton said.

    What an awesome trio!

    Video of Obama back to his best.

  75. 1175
    paddy says:

    Today’s Firstdog is a gem.
    At times like today, black humour is esential/

  76. 1176
    Chris B says:

    1173 “I have lost all hope. Labor will be creamed and will take a decade to rebuild” Still a year and a half to go. Peoples memories are short. There is no major issue that will stick out like dogs balls. Yet. Just lots of fluff.

  77. 1177
    Chris B says:

    Rove’s Forecast Shows Obama Way Ahead.

    Karl Rove’s latest electoral vote forecast finds President Obama with 220 votes and another 64 votes which “lean Obama.” Mitt Romney has 93 votes with another 79 which “lean Romney.” The remaining 82 votes are “toss ups.”

    Most interesting: Rove lists both South Carolina and Missouri as “toss up” states.


  78. 1178
    Gaffhook says:

    Katielou, hopefully Murdoch stench media will be a thing of the past by then. Things are gathering pace in the UK as Cameron now admits he did discuss the BskyB bid at the Brooks Xmas party with Jimmy the jaw.

    It will take time but should unravel fairly quickly as momentum gathers.
    No doubt Brooks is sitting on some hot messages.


  79. 1179
    HarryH says:

    Gillard , and Labour’s only hope used to be that Tony Abbott was the alternative PM.

    Now , not even that will save them.

    They have taken such a creaming by our shithouse media that they are unelectable. The ALP , partly by their own doing and mostly by an anti-NBN inspired and self interested mogul funded media shitstorm, are in the trash bin out there in voter land.

    Their only remaining hope is the rapid PUBLIC demise and TRASHING of Murdoch. To such an extent that the public twig that most of what they have been fed in this extraordinary past couple of years of media pile-on has been utter crap.

    That is the ONLY hope.

    The ALP has to be the one to push the PUBLIC trashing of Murdoch, because lets face it, no-one in the media will.

    It is the only hope of stopping a rout.

    At every media appearance from now on, EVERY ALP Minister and spokesperson should ask if a deal has been done between Murdoch and Abbott. Embrace the shitstorm and keep asking the question.

    There is an appetite out in voter land to despise both Murdoch and Abbott.



    Lose in a rout.

    No other choice.

  80. 1180
    Katielou says:

    Abbott and Murdoch are despised. The Murdoch papers are no where near the force they used to be. Michelle Grattan writes for The Age and she’s the one calling for Gillard’s head today.

    The key to Labor survival has next to zero to do with Murdoch. People never got over the dumping of Rudd and the carbon tax. It’s hard for me to relate to that, because I see no problem in Labor dumping Rudd. Further, I do not resent the introduction of the carbon tax. But I am not representative of the electorate.

    I seriously and strongly believe Gillard was a great deputy who couldn’t rise effectively to the leadership position. Labor has made many dumb political decisions (under both Rudd and Gillard), and as I’ve said many times before, their ability to communicate and sell their message is simply dreadful. And I don’t see a good alternative. Rudd was worse that Gillard imo, because Rudd couldn’t run a properly functioning government. Gillard has been able to implement things.

    Labor’s problem in selling their message – Is this part media – yes? Is it mostly attributable to Murdoch – I don’t accept that. WTF is Labor’s message?

    I despair.

  81. 1181
    HarryH says:


    Rudd, and then Gillard were systematically torn apart by a media that is LED & DOMINATED by News Ltd. It has been impossible to know what Labours “message” is because it has been totally unreported. Amongst their undoubted stupidity and own goals, Labour’s “message” is A STABLE ECONOMY AMIDST GLOBAL TURMOIL.

    But the msm refuse steadfastly to give that “message” ANY air. They are hellbent on seeing off this Government before the NBN changes everything they currently have in their favour.

    I happen to agree with Tom Watson that the Murdoch Empire is akin to the mafia. They are wholly corrupt, wholly enamoured with their power, wholly concerned with their own best interest and wholly out of control.

    Labour’s “message” could once again be heard if only Gillard would play by their rules.

    In Australia, where News Ltd’s dominance is unparalled, they play the tune and the mice follow.

    For Australias journalists, speak against the grain and where are your job opportunities???

    For Australias voters, where else can we get “the message” ???

  82. 1182
    Gaffhook says:

    Stop reading my mind HarryH. :sad:

    I said in plenty of places after Rudd got in, the first thing he should do is clean up the media and the ABC. If he doesn’t the ALP will get what they deserve.

    Little old Fiji had the gonads to tell Murdoch to fuck off and he is not even a voice there now.

    As Ye sow, so shall Ye reap.

    Start with Mark Scott and fuck him off. Howard planted him in there in 2006 and look at it now. It is a fucking disgrace.

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    Jen says:

    I don’t think we Labor can solely blame Murdoch – they have done some stupid things and no matter what kind of backroom negotiator Julia may be she is fucking hopeless in front of a camera – and that’s where voters see her. Rudd was equally as awful.
    There is no one in Labor currently that inspires as a leader – and that leaves a vacuum that Abbott, aided and abetted by Rupert and now Fairfax has been able to fill simply by hanging shit on Labor – and the electorate of course buy it.
    What other message can they hear when even Labor itself isn’t saying anything worth listening to…???

    and so here comes Abbott.
    Hopefully to go the same way as Bailleau in Victoria – on the nose within 2 years.
    what a disaster. :(

  85. 1185
    Jen says:

    ‘..we Labor … ” slip of the keyboard.
    Green through and through :mrgreen:

  86. 1186
    Chris B says:

    bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive.

    As America nears the one-year anniversary of the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, Democrats are running on the tagline, “bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive,” as Vice President Joe Biden put it this week.

    Republicans are not happy with the development. After the Obama campaign put out a video suggesting Mitt Romney might not have made the same decision to send Navy SEALs into Pakistan, the RNC went ballistic, dispatching an irate John McCain to condemn their efforts to “politicize” bin Laden’s demise.

    In truth, both sides have been sharpening their political message since the moment the death was announced. Let’s review the five stages of the evolving Republican response.

    Great catch phrase.

    More here…

  87. 1187
    Chris B says:

    1179 HarryH “The ALP has to be the one to push the PUBLIC trashing of Murdoch” Totally agree Harry. I’m surprised its taken so long.

  88. 1188
    Chris B says:

    1187 Chris B Hmmm. Maybe they will wait till parliament returns and there is even more evidence around. Make sure they attack Murdoch with the protection of Parliament.

  89. 1189
    Gaffhook says:

    It would not matter who was leader of the ALP at the moment. The Media and the monkey are calling for Julia to go and if she did they would not waste a day ripping in to whoever it was to be next.

    It does not matter what good things are progressed through this parliament, it gets absolutely no media. The NDIS is a prime example.

    Hardly even half a minute of news about it but complete coverage of a fat useless fucken over rich miner who says he will stand against Wayne Swan. He won’t and it is a deliberate distraction aided and abetted by murdoch and his myrmidons.

    Australian media is a fucken pathetic disgraceful bunch of groupthink hooligans intent on destroying everything to try to get the people who do them favours back in to power.

    I did not watch it but David Speers and Morris, on one of murdochs prime outlets, apparently says it all yesterday when Speers sat there and let Morris promote the idea that the Prime Minister should be kicked to death.
    The government needs to take them on and be real hard nosed about it.


    I don’t think we Labor can solely blame Murdoch

    It amazes me that you can give Murdoch even an inch of leeway though i suppose you are right. We can not solely blame Murdoch, we have to blame Murdoch and team murdoch that sail in her, all the editors and cut and paste merchants that bless him.

    They all attacked Bob Brown with the threat that they will destroy the Greens and you give him breathing space.

    The state of the country at the moment as far as i am concerned lies solely at the feet of the rancid media.

  90. 1190
    Gaffhook says:

    Good article on Facts are dead

    It’s simply too hard to walk back misconceptions once they’re out in the wild, Nyhan says, whether put there by political elites or another source. If there was a greater reputational price to pay for putting falsehoods out there, he says, perhaps there would be fewer of them in the first place.


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    Jen says:

    Gaffers – I detest Murdoch and am not intending to give him any space at all . Clearly as a supporter of Greens Nd BB his treatment of us has even despicable as it has of Labor. I am simply making the point that Labor has made it easy for him to attack despite some of the good things they have done because they have not had a leader that can win the public. look at what Obama has had thrown at him and it has hurt him at times and yet he performs Ina way that counters the attacks. Sadly the same cannot be said for Labor. With scum like Murdoch running the country we need a strong decisive and convincing leader and in this Labor -With both Rudd and Gillard has failed .

  94. 1194
    Chris B says:

    A brilliant add for Obama and the Democrats starring Bill Clinton.
    Must see!!!!

  95. 1195
    Chris B says:

    1189 Gaffhook Spot on Gaffy. The polls today aren’t good for Labor. On the positive side. The tax cuts come out 1st July. Hip pocket nerve will kick in. No matter what the Murdoch press says.

  96. 1196
    Jen says:

    And whyTF won’t Labor back the Greens call for an inquiry into the media????
    No doubt because they are just as prepared to get into bed with them when they can. :(

  97. 1197
    Chris B says:

    Exclusive: Three ex-News International executives misled Parliament.

    The long-awaited and potentially explosive report on phone hacking from the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee is due this morning.

    MPs had their last meeting yesterday morning to sign off the report and ITV News can reveal some of the findings.

    More here..
    MPs are set to find Colin Myler, Tom Crone and Les Hinton guilty of misleading the committee and therefore Parliament.

  98. 1198
    Katielou says:

    gaffy @ 1189

    Clive Palmer’s announcement yesterday was an absolute gift to Labor – the complete antithesis of the damaging Murdoch conspiracy you think exists.

    Wayne Swan should get down on his knees and pray everyday that Palmer sees his announced intentions through. Endorsing a crazy narcissistic billionaire would be frikkin pennies from heaven for Labor.

    There’s plenty of support for this, but read Antony Green , and don’t try to tell me he’s a Murdoch stooge as well.


  99. 1199
    Katielou says:

    The comments by this dude in Crikey today about social conservatives freak me out. I don’t even understand what he’s talking about. Is it gay marriage? If so, I don’t see what the problem is, because Gillard is against it. And I don’t know wtf he means about the fixation on the language of individualism – if someone can work it out, let me know. And note this is a Labor man – no Murdoch conspiracy here.

    Labor man: if she won’t resign, caucus must remove Gillard
    Luke Walladge, long-time ALP member and former staffer and campaigner, writes:

    Julia Gillard has got to go.

    From 44.5% of the primary vote in 2007 to 27% today, from 53.5% of the two-party-preferred vote in 2007 to 41% this morning, from 83 seats in 2007 to 71 this week, she has been an unmitigated disaster. The press gallery has written her off, her colleagues no longer trust her judgment and the public are itchy to not just remove her with prejudice but to do the same to any MP or party tone-deaf enough to insist on her unwavering virtue despite all the evidence. She is trashing the careers of good men and women, forced to support her, and looking foolish.

    Gillard has got to go.

    As a staffer, campaigner and long-time member of the Labor Party, I know only too well what saying this publicly will probably mean — the cry of “burn the heretic” will soon be up, and accusations of treachery will fill the air. But if the Labor movement occasionally requires a human sacrifice, then Molech must be appeased; and if succeeding in Labor means reacting to it’s disintegration with self-interested silence, then it’s not worth succeeding in.

    Not only must Gillard be removed, but it has to be accompanied by a change in policy on the carbon tax. If the leadership is seen as purely cosmetic surgery, it’ll be greeted with even more contempt. Yet if the new leader were to scrap the carbon tax and move directly to an ETS, it would drop the price from $23 a tonne to about $8, thereby acknowledging the kitchen table concerns of ordinary Australians.

    This move would immediately acknowledge the No.1 concern of suburban Australia — the cost of living. Exit polling showed 69% of all voters in Queensland considered it “very important” when casting their vote. The WA Premier, Colin Barnett, is facing a protest vote next year on the issue. Labor cannot claim the mantle of working families while it ignores their primary concern and implements a carbon tax it’s never bothered to explain in their language; by the same token, reducing the price-per-tonne sends a clear signal that the message has fallen on open ears.

    The second benefit of such a move would be the alienation of the Greens Party from Labor. The “deal” with Bob Brown and Co, done by Gillard to only gain what Labor would have received anyway (some negotiator!) has done more than any other single thing to trash the ALP brand outside the inner cities — and nothing for it in them. If under a new leader Labor could plausibly claim to have listened to the public, accommodated cost-of-living concerns and jettisoned the Greens Party, it could be back in the game within several months.

    Which brings up again the question of who the new leader should be. It cannot be Rudd again, no matter his ambitions — the nuclear decimation of his prime ministerial stewardship last March put paid to that. He is untenable as leader. With him, the Liberal ads have already been written, by Swan and Marles and a good many other Labor frontbenchers. And his return would ensure the whole thing was seen through a purely personal prism of Julia versus Kevin, and any policy implications would be even more ignored than they already are.

    Which leaves the rest of the frontbench. You can rule out all the women, unfortunately — it will look far too much like Gillard 2.0. Burke and Combet are capable, sure, but also both unready and too close to the Gillard ascendancy. Bill Shorten is too big a talent to waste on a salvage job; his time is next time. A move to Bob Carr, unluckily, would seem too clever by half. Albanese looks much like a hectoring prefect, no matter his undeniable ability in the House. Simon Crean was a disaster from 2001 to 2003, and Martin Ferguson is the candidate all Liberals dream of facing.

    There is only one answer — Stephen Smith.

    Smith is good-looking and married; appealing, I’m reliably informed, to a good many women. He might be dull, but it’s a reassuring, family, wife-and-kids kind of dull. He’s held serious portfolios in Foreign Affairs and Defence, embarrassing no one and passing the “meet the Queen” test. He comes from a conservative mining state — exactly the terrain Labor needs to do well in to survive. He’s not seen by the public as ambitious beyond the normal remit of politicians, and must know that should Labor lose in 2013 he will never again be a senior minister, let alone PM. There is, then, a certain freedom in doing what needs to be done, without fear of blotting a future chance at the Lodge.

    Even this course of events will only save the furniture. Labor can’t hope for more than 60 seats on a good day, but it can make sure it’s not reduced to a rump. The question is whether the federal Labor caucus still believes in Labor values enough to risk the spoils of office … the answer is anyone’s guess.

    Finally, Labor needs to examine it’s own direction with brutal frankness. Pandering to inner-city concerns, signing deals with Greens and generally making the party unacceptable to social conservatives has been an unmitigated disaster for Labor. Historically the ALP has been neither predominantly conservative nor predominantly progressive, but instead been a workers’ party. The clue is in the title — Labor — and yet now the party seems incapable of designing or explaining policy in terms that benefit or appeal to the average working Australian. This failure to understand the innate conservatism of the outer suburbs, this fixation on the language of individualism, is costing Labor dearly.

    If the Australian Labor Party, this last, best hope of social democracy for the nation, is to survive, we must stop telling the public they are wrong. We might start admitting that maybe we are the problem, not the voters. We might stop treating the Labor Party as nothing more than a corporate career path, and start fighting about what our values are and what we would die for politically rather than expediently jettison.

    Should Gillard not resign — and all indications are that the only guiding principle she considers worthy of defending in the face of electoral defeat is her own continued prime ministership — then the caucus must remove her. It’s why we put them there. It’s hard to say, but the present situation is even harder to see.

    Gillard has got to go.

  100. 1200
    HarryH says:

    Clive Palmer yesterday was a classic “look over here” trick to stop the NDIS getting any airtime.

    With a decent media, he would be laughed at and given NO airtime….but no…our media thought the Clive Circus Show deserved MORE airtime than a major policy announcement.

    Look, this isn’t even debateable. Palmer himself laughed at the media after the Qld election and openly told them he was running a distraction with his inane CIA bullshit, to deny Anna Bligh airtime.

    He laughed his head off….and then pulled exactly the same trick yesterday.

    Meanwhile , major policy goes unreported and the “shithouse Labour Government meme” roars along unchallenged by a single media person.

    It is a disgrace…and it is intentional.

    Regime change has been ordered.

    Regime change will be delivered.

    Abbott doesn’t have to do a thing except don’t get caught in bed with a dead body….although if it was Peter Slippers body then that would be all Gillards fault.