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Voting is underway in the Republic Caucuses in Iowa. With less than 1% of the count Ron Paul lead the pack. With 3% of the count Rick Santorum took lead position. With 6% counted Rick Santorum held 1st. place with 1,229 votes just 25 votes ahead of Ron Paul, but just now the count clicked over to 11% and Ron Paul takes the lead, followed by Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann.


Live results here.

UPDATE: Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum share dibs on first place, Ron Paul not far behind. Newt Gingrich in forth place closes the door on the Iowa circus leaving Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann alone in the dark.

1,289 Responses to “Iowa Republican Caucuses”

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    Jen says:

    so far everyone in Labor – including Kevin apparently – is supporting Julia.
    So whoTF are the supposed anti-Gillard plotters?
    and why don’t they just call a spill so Rudd can lose by a mile and get sacked and then everyone can get on with keeping Abbott from ever getting his hands on the prime-minister-ship (otherwise known as the Titanic :lol: )
    and what is Malcs up to??…

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    Gaffhook says:

    Computer hacker has been convicted and he claims he had direct access to Andy Coulson. No doubt Coulson will deny it and hopefully there will be evidence turned over that in fact he did. That is when it will become uncomfortable for David Cameron.

    A man at the centre of allegations that computers were hacked for the News of the World has been convicted of conspiring to illegally access private information for profit.

    Until Monday legal restrictions meant that what is known about Philip Campbell Smith’s alleged involvement in computer hacking could not be reported.

    Smith is alleged to have hacked the computer of a former British army intelligence officer in 2006 as part of a commission from the News of the World. In a tape recording, Smith says he was in contact with Andy Coulson, the former News of the World editor who went on to become David Cameron’s director of communications. Smith also claimed Coulson was in his mobile phone directory.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/feb/20/news-world-hacking-suspect-conspiracy?newsfeed=true

  6. 506
    Katielou says:

    I don’t think Julia should call a spill. I think it will weaken her.

    But it’s also a damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. It’s bad if Rudd keeps going on the way he is.

    I don’t get people protecting Rudd saying he’s been unfairly attacked and he should get respect. That’s bullshit. He’s hurting the government and he should pull his head in.

    To be honest I don’t see a good way out. I’m trying to disengage and pretend maybe Tony Abbott won’t be PM.

  7. 507
    paddy says:

    Pure Zen from Firstdog today. :-(
    A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
    http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BuyASubYouCheapBastards.jpg

  8. 508
    Gaffhook says:

    Katielou
    A week is a long time in politics and there is two years to go before an election.
    The retards have to upset the applecart before the 1st july if they want to sabotage all the new tax thresholds etc etc so they will be going all out with all kinds of unhingement to get an election before then.

    It is all so silly that i am convinced that Julia and Kevin are stageing all this to help the media and Abbott uunhinge a bit more.

    They are all going to look stupid for all their antics next week when nothing happens. They will have to start all over again. :mrgreen:

    Don’t take it serious, just laugh at how stupid they all are.

    Did you see Fiona Katsukis cartoon today. Absolutely nails it.

    http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=30160

  9. 509
    HarryH says:

    Rupert tweeted last week to “get on with it” so…….

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  11. 511
    paddy says:

    Dear Kevin…..Fuck off and good riddance.
    That is all.

  12. 512
    Jen says:

    Indeed paddy – what a prick. He’ll deliver this nation to Tony Abbott to satisfy his own ego. Hope he gets utterly trounced and disappears for good

  13. 513
    Chris B says:

    Republicans Losing Interest in Presidential Race
    **************************************

    A new Associated Press-GfK poll finds nterest in the Republican presidential race is slipping: Just 40% of Republicans say they have a great deal of interest in following the contest, compared with 48% in December.

    Key findings: Only 23% are strongly satisfied with the field and 40% said they are dissatisfied with the candidates running.

    http://politicalwire.com

  14. 514
    Chris B says:

    Goodbye Kevin. Don’t come back!

  15. 515
    Chris B says:

    Well. Its on for young and old. Wayne Swan sums i up nicely. We need Rudd like we need a hole in the head. Kevin Rudd would be a worse version of Tony Blair. No thanks!
    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-colleagues-sick-of-rudd-swan-20120222-1to9i.html

  16. 516
    Katielou says:

    I’m with you all on Kevin. He’s burning the house down around him. If anyone sees the video of Julia’s press conference this morning, please post. I’m hanging out to watch it.

    Deeply worried that I can’t see a solution to this. Rudd is not going to fade away. He’s demonstrating he’s a sociopath. Swan speaks the truth.

  17. 517
    paddy says:

    Can’t find the complete presser KL.
    But here’s a link to video of Jules slapping down the “rudehack” AKA Michael Owen of News Ltd.
    http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/9raw-gillard-responds-angrily-to-journalist/x8g0v1n?cpkey=6b4be75b-0019-43df-9c64-9818fc301580||||

  18. 518
    Katielou says:

    Thanks Paddy. I found the audio……

    http://chirb.it/eb1Hfk#

  19. 519
    paddy says:

    KL
    Here’s the video of her entire speech (less questions) via Crikey.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mE9FDKxMXTw

  20. 520
    paddy says:

    Here’s the shorter version of the entire soap opera via Firstdog. :lol:
    http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SpillNotRespillPlease.jpg

  21. 521
    Katielou says:

    The question bit was good. Aside from the exchange with the journo above, there was a good section where she described how she had to go out of her way to keep thegovernment functioning under Rudd. I remember the stories about how people liked it when he left the country and Julia was acting PM, as it was the time that things actually got done.

  22. 522
    Katielou says:

    It’s interesting and somewhat challenging for me that some pundits whose views I respect are on team Rudd. I think it reflects the crap state of Labor in general.

  23. 523
    HarryH says:

    KL,

    i agree. Not only pundits, but the pollies themselves.

    It’s like i want the rival leaders to swap teams lol. I mean Faulkner, Cameron, Griffin, Burke, Carr…they are Labor Lefties like myself but support Rudd.

    Then on Team Gillard there are arsehats like Farrell,Arbib,DeBruyn,Conroy,Feeney,Bitar, and the arsehat of all arsehats Paul Howes.

    I just cannot abide Kevin Rudd though. He is an out and out traitor and coward and suckup.

    For all Gillards mistakes, she has the team and cause at heart. Rudd on the other hand has only EVER had Kevin Rudd at his heart and is a despicable character..

    It just doesn’t make sense to me that people like Faulkner and Cameron are on the opposite side to me.

    Disheartening but i will always vote Green/Labor 1 and 2 no matter what happens.

  24. 524
    Jen says:

    HarryH – agree on every count.
    can’t believe a decent pollie like Doug Cameron would back Rudd – and apparently all the polls are putting him ahead of Gillard as preferred PM – got to wonder if that will sway nervous backbenchers. At the same time if Abbott was dumped for Turnbull the Libs would romp it in and honestly, he couldn’t do any worse than the current labor cowards.
    But the idea of Abbott as PM is so worrying that I honestly hope that Rudd is buried after Monday so that Labor can start to gain some traction in the community.
    His self interest is utterly disgraceful.

  25. 525
    Chris B says:

    I agre with you Jen HarryH Katielou. We all seem to be on the same wave length.

  26. 526
    Chris B says:

    Will McDonnell’s Shift Hurt Republicans?
    ******************************

    First Read points out that the retreat by Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) and other state Republicans on that ‘transvaginal’ ultrasound bill “was the worst of all worlds for the GOP in this very important battleground state.”

    “The good news for Republicans: It’s over; they’ve folded. The bad news: The retreat has disappointed their base, the original legislation fired up Democrats, and the whole matter took Republicans away from the one issue that won them success from 2009-2011: the economy.”

    http://politicalwire.com

  27. 527
    Chris B says:

    Chafee Very Unpopular in Rhode Island.
    *******************************

    A new Brown University Poll in Rhode Island finds Gov. Lincoln Chafee’s (I) approval rating is a dismal 22%, down from 27% in December.

    Rep. David Cicilline’s (D-RI) approval rating is even worse at lowly 15%.

    http://politicalwire.com

  28. 528
    Chris B says:

    It’s starting to look like the Democrats stuff up in the mid term elections was a very important tactical move. :)

  29. 529
    Gaffhook says:

    Just in case you thought SeweRoo and his myrmidons were fine upstanding citizens of the world more evidence emerges as to what a bunch of scumbag bastards they are. Their Australian counterparts will be in it all just as much as the rest of the world.
    They have even carried on deleting evidence after a judge warned them not to.
    They should be held in contempt of court and summarily gaoled.

    It would be very hard to convince me that Mordor and his Myrmidons have not been engineering the hate and aggression toward the democratically elected government of Australia, with a view to regime change.

    My wish is that Kevin Rudd gets put to bed on the back bench or sits on the cross benches and Julia now becomes aggressive like she was at yesterdays presser. Being nice to these scum is of no value they just don’t care. Fuckem.

    The documents, released to The Daily Telegraph by a High Court judge, says the policy’s stated aim was “to eliminate in a consistent manner” emails that “could be unhelpful in the context of future litigation in which a News International company is a defendant”.
    Hundreds of thousands of emails were deleted “on nine separate occasions”, computers were destroyed and one senior executive told an underling to remove seven boxes of paper records relating to them from the company’s storage facility.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/9102231/Phone-hacking-News-of-the-World-bosses-ordered-emails-to-be-deleted.html

  30. 530
    David Gould says:

    No matter who is in charge of Labor, Abbott will win the next election. However, my prediction is that Rudd is – although not with his knowledge of consent – being used as a stalking horse for someone else. The leadership spill will end Rudd, but tarnish Gillard. The polls will not improve – they are stuck, as Possum says. Some time later this year, Shorten or Smith or someone else will make the move to take over. They will gather the Rudd remnants and their own backers and make a challenge.

    Regarding who is backing Rudd versus who is backing Gillard, my thinking is that it is because the left in general see Gillard as a betrayer of the left because of the battle with Tanner in Victoria. She is seen as someone from the right; Rudd is seen as someone with no faction. Thus, the left will tend to back Rudd over Gillard.

  31. 531
    Jen says:

    Wow DG… Conspiracy theory extraordinaire!
    Makes sense too.
    My only hope is that abbott’s polling doesn’t hit the heights expected due to the Anyone But Tony sentiment and Malcs finally gets the prize he has obviously been promised.

  32. 532
    HarryH says:

    David

    regarding your 2nd paragraph. I understand all that history, but Kevin Rudd is NOT a man of the Left AT ALL.

    It is beyond obvious that his ass is owned by Rupert Murdoch just as much as Tony Abbotts is and Tony Blair’s was and Gordon Brown’s was. His constant “faceless men” schtick is straight out of the Murdoch playbook of destroying the union movement and the Labor Party.

    It just suits his personal quest to use it.

    He and Therese remind me so so much of Bill and Hilary. It’s like they made youthful pacts with each other to have the time of their lives and GO FOR THE STARS. They are on unique personal journeys that they have a never ending thirst for.

    Kevin Rudd and News Corp are inextricably linked. This in itself makes me despair at the turmoil people like Faulkner must be in. The choice seems to be a despicable traitor like Rudd or draconian Right Wing union bosses who are stifling a progressive Party.

    I’m not going to criticise someone like Faulkner and others but it just really disappoints me that they see Kevin Rudd as the answer.

  33. 533
    David Gould says:

    HarryH,

    They probably do not see him as ‘the answer’. They do not like Gillard and they see Rudd as their best chance to beat Abbott (not much more of a chance, but hey …).

    The left have very rarely been a position of putting forward the person that they really wanted. I am sure that if they had had anywhere near the numbers either Tanner or Faulkner would have been their choices. However, they have always had to go along with the right and hope to pick up a few good portfolios as compensation.

    I am pinning my faith in Wong or Combet to become opposition leader and lead Labor back from a one-term stint out of power.

    Fantasy land. But hey …

  34. 534
    David Gould says:

    And as a Clinton supporter I will refrain from commenting on that line of attack. ;)

  35. 535
    HarryH says:

    DG

    I applaud your diplomacy in 534 and share your fantasy at the conclusion in 533

  36. 536
    HarryH says:

    But i say to you David that the only way the fantasy of 533 can occur is by removing the boot of News Corp from the Australian throat.

    To install a Murdoch sychophant like Rudd is PURE fantasy that things can change.

    To understand the Rudd/Murdoch nexus properly it must be understood that the power is ALL 1 WAY. It is ALL Murdochs and only a total egomaniac like Rudd or Blair is willing to engage in it (from the supposed “left” side of politics.

    News Corp totally use him and he is more than happy to be totally used in order to satisfy his one man ego trip.

    Gillard, for all her faults, doesn’t have that ego . And that is why she is a NON NEGOTIABLE to News Corp.

  37. 537
    Jen says:

    the ” K Rudd” (does he not get that??) references are a major concern .
    Referring to yourself in the third person indicates a sense of disconnection and deluded grandiosity that goes a way to explaining why Rudd is prepared to let this country sink into the depths of an Abbott-led government – ie:Sophie Mirabella will be the Minister for Science and Innovation for starters.
    Kevin’s nuts.

  38. 538
    Gaffhook says:

    Jen

    She will also be the minister for comforting rich old men but i can’t see how she will be able to innovate starters for kevins nuts unless she becomes a fluffer as well. Mind you she looks like a fluffer. :mrgreen:

  39. 539
    Gaffhook says:

    This will put a smile on your dial Chris.

    According to the new Pew Research poll, Independents are fleeing Mitt Romney and embracing
    President Obama at a brisk clip. Obama’s support with Independents now tops 50%.

    The new Pew Research poll found that Mitt Romney is in the midst of an epic slide with Independent voters. In November, Romney led Obama, 53%-42% with Independents. The margin stayed just about the same in mid-January as Romney led the president, 50%-40% with Independents, but something has happened over the past month as Independents now support Obama, 52%-44%.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-independents-poll

  40. 540
    Jen says:

    exactly Gaffers :)

  41. 541
    Gaffhook says:

    What’s the go here Jen?

    Janet Rice ‏ @janet_rice
    Just been confirmed I’m the preselected lead senate candidate.very happy and humbled! Very close vote.

  42. 542
    Jen says:

    don’t ask.

  43. 543
    Chris B says:

    Maher Gives $1 Million to Obama Super PAC
    **********************************

    During a live performance, Bill Maher presented a check for $1 million to a Super PAC which supports President Obama’s reelection campaign, the Hollywood Reporter reports.

    I like the guy.
    http://politicalwire.com

  44. 544
    Chris B says:

    539 Certainly does Gaffy.

  45. 545
    Chris B says:

    530 David Gould Oh shit. I hope not.

  46. 546
    Chris B says:

    Mind you if Julia has a big win it might make her stronger.

  47. 547
    paddy says:

    Fascinating stuff here, via a Labor insider, about how Kevin Rudd operated (or didn’t) in his brief reign.
    This will be all the more powerful because it comes under Laurie Oakes byline and is published in the Herald Sun.

    Why they hate Kevin Rudd so much
    A LABOR insider lifts the lid on the Rudd Government. What he claims explains the venom of the attacks against Kevin Rudd this week.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/revealed-why-they-hate-kevin-rudd-so-much/story-fn56baaq-1226280973899

  48. 548
    paddy says:

    I’m not sure if this is the piece Oakes is referring to, but it’s certainly worth a read.

    We need to talk about Kevin
    James Button
    Kevin Rudd was ultimately responsible for his own downfall, writes his former speechwriter.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/we-need-to-talk-about-kevin-20120224-1ttxx.html

  49. 549
    Gaffhook says:

    You will not get this kind of information from the Oz MSM. They don’t want us to know how corrupt their world wide organisation is as more arrests are made in the UK.
    thank Dog for the internet enabling us to find these reports without the MSM help and it will be easier and faster uncovering it with the introduction of the NBN. No wonder SeweRoo wants Abbott to trash the NBN.

    Britain’s media ethics scandal flared again just ahead of Rupert Murdoch’s launch of The Sun on Sunday, with two men arrested on suspicion of computer hacking Friday and a senior police officer placed under investigation for allegedly leaking information to the Australian tycoon’s U.K. newspaper company.

    Police said that the latest arrests were carried out in Hertfordshire and Surrey, two English counties just outside the capital, under the aegis of Operation Tuleta, which is investigating allegations that journalists broke into computer systems to steal information.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/world/uk-media-scandal-2uk-media-scandal-2-new-computer-hacking-arrests-2196477.html

  50. 550
    Gaffhook says:

    548
    Paddy
    This bit;

    “The author, who operated in a key role and observed much of the discussion and decision making, says he would not have bothered to set down his recollections “except that they are such a powerful warning for future governments”.

    His starting point is that “the Rudd government was never, and could never have been, a functional government because of the man who ran it”.”

    IMHO has got Lindsay Tanner written all over it.

  51. 551
    Katielou says:

    Paddy’s link at 548 is compulsory reading. I’ve sent it to everyone I know.

  52. 552
    paddy says:

    550
    Gaffy. Possibly Tanner, but I also saw someone suggest that maybe it was Ken Henry.

  53. 553
    Katielou says:

    Ken Henry is a good guess, imo.

  54. 554
    Katielou says:

    Article at 548 is by James Button, son of John, and former staffer of Rudd.

  55. 555
    Katielou says:

    I definitely think that Labor should not be swayed by Rudd’s apparent popularity at the moment. Even without the comments over the past few days, Labor cannot govern effectively under Rudd.

  56. 556
    Katielou says:

    Respect for Albo, but I think he made the wrong call.

  57. 557
    paddy says:

    556
    Agreed KL.
    But on the strength of that performance, he probably now emerges as a potential leader down the track, if the whole show goes off the rails in the next 12 mths.
    It was a seriously classy speech.

  58. 558
    paddy says:

    Meanwhile….Back in the land of the free and the clinically insane….
    The Repubs show how NOT to stage a rally. Via Jay Rosen on twitter :lol:
    This pic of Romney’s event in Detroit today is hysterical: http://bit.ly/ywxZFk Expert advance work!

  59. 559
    Katielou says:

    Any advantage Rudd could bring will be temporary only. Government will (almost) grind to a halt just like it did before – even worse without some of the stronger people mopping up after Rudd. He won’t have Gillard fixing things up like she did before.

    Sociopaths don’t change.

  60. 560
    HarryH says:

    I haven’t seen Albo’s speech , but like Faulkner and Dougie before him, he has my respect and support.

    Kevin Rudd does not.

    I hope that these 3 plus Combet and Wong and others of good intent can now use their ability to further progressive causes after the Rudd cancer is lanced on Monday.

    I hope Albo NEVER stops working internally against the dead hands of some on the Right of the Party, but i know he will never intentionally harm the Party and the Cause.

    Unlike Rudd.

    After Rudd we can work on the DLP elements of the Party lol

    Gillards power internally has increased. I hope she can use her great interpersonal skills to build an alliance over time that doesn’t need the likes of the SDA.

    I live in hope

  61. 561
    paddy says:

    Very few writers will persuade me to jump over the News paywall, but
    George Megalogenis one.
    Not sure this is his best work, but his analysis of current Oz politics is still worth a read.

    Poll-driven parties put the individual first at electors’ expense
    http://bit.ly/AhHlPG

  62. 562
    Jen says:

    once again Harry H, I agree.

  63. 563
    paddy says:

    560
    HarryH
    It’s well worth seeking out Albo’s speech.
    One of the best I’ve heard him deliver.
    The fact that Jules has refused to accept his resignation give a decent sign to the party that there will be life after Kevin on Monday.

    BTW just watched Kevin doing his “smarmy little prick” routine at a Brissie shopping mall on ABCTV . The bastard has driven me to an early drink!
    I can’t wait till Monday, when this sick farce will end. :-(

  64. 564
    paddy says:

    give=gives

  65. 565
    Gaffhook says:

    Geez Your on a roll Harry.

  66. 566
    HarryH says:

    yeah….but is any of it making sense?..lol

  67. 567
    Chris B says:

    547 paddy An awesome article paddy. Should be enough to finish him off.

  68. 568
    paddy says:

    567
    Chris B The *real* fun tomorrow will be watching Laurie Oakes interview KR.
    Lots of the twitter crew are firing off tweets about what questions LO should ask him. :-)
    While I have to grit my teeth, to even turn the sound on when Rudd’s on the teev.
    I might just make the effort tomorrow morning. :evil:

  69. 569
  70. 570
    Katielou says:

    I’d genuinely like to hear prominent journos explain why they did not report what they knew about Rudd’s government in 2010. Why are they prepared to report some things from anonymous sources and not others? Why report the leaks agains Gillard but not the apparently well known fact that Rudd was incapable of governing?

  71. 571
    paddy says:

    Well ticsters, tomorrow’s going to be an absolute orgy for political tragics. :-)
    We’ve got the caucus meeting to start with. (Sadly preceded by hours of utter bullshit from the hacks who didn’t tell us about the leaks and who leaked them.)
    Then question time….. Followed, no doubt, by endless analysis of who said what to whom…..(Hopefully it will involve a final farewell to the Rudd soufflé )

    And then….. Leveson!!!
    Monday night marks the beginning of where the shit really hits the fan. :evil:

    ‘JAW-DROPPING’ Police &prosecutors to clash bitterly, Leveson inquiry turns focus to bribery

    http://twitpic.com/8omplj
    Methinks the Rupe is in for a whole new world of pain. :lol: :lol:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/exclusive-was-sun-on-sunday-brought-forward-to-beat-revelations-7441050.html

  72. 572
    Gaffhook says:

    571
    Paddy

    Amen comrade! :mrgreen:

  73. 573
    paddy says:

    Ouch!! Therese Rein is in a rather uncomfortable position here.
    No smoking gun, but a definite whiff of Caesar’s wife. :-(
    From Guy Rundle.
    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/02/25/while-kevin-woos-labor-therese-embroiled-in-uk-labour-scandal/

  74. 574
    paddy says:

    Let it not be said that we don’t follow the “serious” media here at ticster land. :mrgreen:
    Breaking: The NT News has the story of the decade.
    http://t.co/sao9JtoM

  75. 575
    Gaffhook says:

    570
    Katielou

    The MSM agenda is to bring down, get rid of, this progressive Government. They had already effectively trashed Kevin Rudd and were mounting the same attacks against Julia Gillard.

    Murdoch wants abbott installed as PM for obvious reasons.

    The big question i want answered is;

    The Government funds the ABC.

    Therefore we are entitled to answers as you have set out and everything should be reported.

    Why have two ABC journalists, already publicly named, allegedly been covertly conspiring with others to destabilise the democratically elected Government and what is to be done about it.

    What is the point of sending our ADF overseas for all of our phony wars that the tea party liberals get us involved in, under the pretext of protecting our way of life, sovereignty, yada yada, when they would be better off employed at home preventing the covert actions of those involved in the overthrow of our Government by stealth and lies.

    The first operation should involve sending in the troops to reclaim the ABC from the LNP, IPA, and Murdoch.

  76. 576
    Jen says:

    I am starting to think this could all be ok – Julia is finally showing the punters her ability and Rudd is showing his narcissistic personality disorder.
    So once he gets trounced tomorrow he may well lose the support of some of his current backers and Jules will be in a stronger position than she has been to date.
    Lancing a boil is painful and ugly, but its the only way healing can take place,and Rudd is the pus infecting the Labor party.

  77. 577
    paddy says:

    Oh that Australia could become a republic.
    Then, maybe, we could have a president like this one. :evil: :mrgreen:

    Michael D Higgins goes off on the tea party in December 2010. (One year before he was elected President of Ireland)
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/101713520

  78. 578
    Katielou says:

    Gaffy, I think you tell part of the story. I don’t think it’s all Murdoch media bias or the fact that the ABC takes the lead from Murdoch newspapers (I think, merely because the ABC is underfunded and has no choice). It doesn’t explain the Laurie Oakes and the Lenore Taylors for example. I dunno, there seems to be some warped sense of journalistic ethics or something at play here. Certainly key journalists are players in this, and I really wish they would admit it. But it’s as if they don’t really get it.

    Jen @ 576

    I think you might be right. I really hope this is how it plays out. But no doubt this has been very risky for the party. If the view of Julia is entrenched, this will not help them.

  79. 579
    Jen says:

    agreed KatieLou – incredibly risky but perhaps necessary.
    It looks as if Rudd has been destabilising Labor from within from the time he was ousted and purely for his own personal agenda. That is despicable and I don’t think it will stand him in good stead with the voters.
    As you and Gaffy point out the media is implicit in this charade but questions are being asked about that as well…
    this may be the best thing that has happened fro Labor – particularly if is seems that the so -called cover ups were actually about trying to be decent to Kevin so as not to twist the knife.
    And Julia has finally hit her stride – if they can regroup quickly after Monday and stand united against Abbott and Co they may gain more traction than was possible until now.
    Rudd should be expelled from the party.

  80. 580
    HarryH says:

    Things will change from tomorrow.

    Gillard will win comfortably.

    Rudd will accept it.

    Policy will get a good airing going forward.

    Abbott will feel the heat.

    A lot of dirty linen has been aired between the Labor Party and journalists. Most will want to move on from the last few years.

    For Rudd, Albo’s speech yesterday, and the fact he will be thrashed in the vote, was the healer for the egomaniac Rudd.

    Albo, a man of standing, said plainly and publicly “Rudd’s removal was wrong”. I think that will be the catylist for an honourable retreat by Rudd after tomorrow.

    These are my thoughts through Kevin’s prism.

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    Gaffhook says:

    I do not think Kevin Rudd will stand. He will know that he will at most get in the twentys and that will be rather humiliating. He would rather just say he didn’t quite have the numbers. That will save face for the likes of Albo having to vote for Kevin Rudd yada yada. He will go to the back bench having not really challenged therefore he will be able to say later on he is not having another challenge as it is only his first challenge. That is very much later this year if Julia does not get some traction. I can’t see her not getting traction especially from July 1st when everything big kicks in and more and more will be hooking up to the NBN.

    Like you say. Get a poultice on this current boil and attack the opposition and gause the media to shine the light on their nothingness.

    Everything will be ok folks.

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    Gaffhook says:

    Julia will make a special effort of doing it for EC. Go Julia.

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    Gaffhook says:

    Newspoll will be the horror of all horrors tomorrow but that is to be expected under the circumstances. It will probably be one to ignore.

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    Gaffhook says:

    I am not going to troll back to when i said it but;

    Speculation that a late challenger might still emerge in the increasingly bitter race for the Republican presidential nomination is set to surge after former Florida governor Jeb Bush made remarks criticising the current field.

    Bush, who is the brother of President George W Bush and son of President George Bush Sr, is a beloved figure among many conservatives who see him as a strong and charismatic leader who is popular in the must-win swing state of Florida.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/24/jeb-bush-latest-white-knight-republican?newsfeed=true

  85. 585
    Gaffhook says:

    Just what the world needs now. :mrgreen:

  86. 586
    HarryH says:

    Fuck you Gaffy.

    We just get rid of Rudd and you bring back a Bush.

    I hate you and i am not reading your link.

    That is all.

    Oh..and PS….get ready Monkeyboy. The heat is a comin’

  87. 587
    Jen says:

    Oh Please.
    say it isn’t so.

  88. 588
    Jen says:

    dont know if you’ve read this KatieLou , but definitely supports your position on the media
    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3847892.html

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    paddy says:

    Kudos where it is due. I’m not always Annabel Crabb’s greatest fan.
    But her article in The Monthly on what went on in Rudd’s days as leader, is compulsory reading for Oz political wonks and (hopefully) a wider audience.
    Written last year for the August edition. It still rings true today.

    Prime Minister, Interrupted: Why One Year After the Election Voters Still Don’t Know Who Gillard Is.

    http://www.themonthly.com.au/why-one-year-after-election-voters-still-don-t-know-who-gillard-prime-minister-interrupted-annabel-c

  90. 590
    Gaffhook says:

    You won’t read about this in Oz MSM. :mrgreen: :grin:

    Dramatic new evidence to the Leveson inquiry this week is expected to unleash a “bloodbath” of bitter recriminations between police and prosecution officials arguing over failings in a series of investigations into allegations of phone hacking, computer hacking and bribery by journalists.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/exclusive-was-sun-on-sunday-brought-forward-to-beat-revelations-7441050.html

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    Chris B says:

    ‘Game Of Thrones’ Season 2 Trailer: HBO Releases Third Trailer With More Peter Dinklage (VIDEO)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/game-of-thrones-season-2-trailer_n_1301599.html

    If you haven’t seen it. Game of Thrones is a brilliant series. The High Definition quality is also very good. I’m looking forward to the second series. It’s based on a sci fi series of books and HBO have spared no expense. There will be 5 seasons.

  92. 592
    Chris B says:

    Game of Thrones is a very popular series. Boy do they cover some taboo issues!!!

  93. 593
    Chris B says:

    Its Fantasy not Sci Fi. :)

  94. 594
    Katielou says:

    I liked Season 1 of Game of Thrones but I understand that everyone dies in the future. I don’t think I’ll keep going with it. I know I’m going to feel cheated if I invest in characters only to see them killed off. I can understand if some key characters die, but not all of them. Sorry for the spoilers – its in the books.

  95. 595
    paddy says:

    On a “slow” news day…. :mrgreen:
    Wikileaks has just released a massive salvo!
    http://pastebin.com/D7sR4zhT

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    Chris B says:

    Great. Now that it out of the way and Julia has won in a landslide. Let’s get on with business.

  97. 597
    HarryH says:

    Can we finally mark today as the end of Gimp Labor and the re-emergence of a confident Labor?

    A willing voting majority awaits.

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  99. 599
    Katielou says:

    Grog did a great piece on today’s vote.

    http://grogsgamut.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/alp-leadership-vote-gillard-71rudd-31.html

    I’m disappointed that Bernard Keane and others are writing about the death of Labor and a third challenger already. I’d expect more frm Crikey.

  100. 600
    HarryH says:

    Arsehat Arbib resigns.

    Now there’s some good news that EVERYONE can unite over.