Pollbludger isnt legally Billbowes as a trademark, but it’s synonymous with William Bowe’s work.
Since he’s asked for it to be changed, his request ought to be respected if for no other reason than he created Pollbludger, his work on his site created this community and riding off the tails of another persons site name after they’ve asked for it to cease (regardless of the circumstances, the best of intentions or the complications along the way) is just not a “good thing”
Changing site names is simple - start a new blog name, go to the admin backend, go to Manage, then import, click wordpress and follow the instructions.
The entire site is then moved across to the new one, including comments.
But it needs to be done guys.
I appreciate the complexity of what happened leading up to pollbludger.wordpress.com, but the bullet really needs to bit.. so to speak.
possum-
Greens though I am, and Laborite marsupial that you are…
I love you.
I really really really hope that those of us that have become part of the OzBlog community can move on and be separate but connected, if you know what I mean- bit like you and Bilbo for example.
But if someone fed off our site and called it PossumUS, I would not like it.
Sorry Guys, not trying to cause disharmony, but do have to stand by what appears right.
I think we should make a wikipedia entry for William. See how long it takes the cultists to delete it
(apologies if anyone here is a frequent editor of the site and takes offence at that comment, but you know deep down it’s true)
Anyway, in a somewhat rare moment, I agree with Possum. I also agree with jen, although I don’t exactly know who she is.
Right then, back to watching the ads on channel seven, although I wish they would stop interrupting them with the Olympics so often, it’s getting ridiculous.
Max-
Alright. I am at major fault - forgive me. You are now welded into my psyche as the person that was Totally Wrong, But Put Me Onto the West Wing: accolades and flowers.
now stop punishing me.: I was overwraught.
As for the Olympics - when do they start?
(And who cares?)
I think it’s all a question of good will and good relations. William let’s far too much criticism of this site and it’s posters, slide, on his own site. As a casual observer, you can’t help but come to the conclusion that he endorses some of it and get’s a chuckle out of other of it. I can understand if the convener’s of this site feel aggrieved and balk at this sudden desire to play fair and all do what’s right, for the good of the country, or whatever…..Just a layman’s opinion.
Name. I agree that a new name is good. Some suggestions -
Poll Watch
Pollie Watch
The name is not that important provided key words are used for the site to attract people with an interest in US election. Suggest not putting US in name if there is any thought of dealing with Oz issues as well.
William obviously wishes to maintain a “moderate” character on his site which is his option but given the lack of intelligent conservative contributions that is very difficult.
This site currently has a somewhat left/green direction but that doesn’t mean that strong debate can’t occur on all sorts of issues.
The site just needs to avoid allowing comment/attack to get personal and to deal with people who don’t want to follow sensible rules in a straight-forward way. Sorting wheat from chaff is useful - getting distracted by people who want to cause mischief is not smart and can just look like blood sport.
Catrina- I understood pretty much nothing of the tech stuff, but get the idea that there is a whole new separate independent site happening.
(Do we have a name yet?)
Thanks for all your dedication and work - amazing!!
Catrina- I understood pretty much nothing of the tech stuff, but get the idea that there is a whole new separate independent site happening.
Your absolutely correct. The technical restrictions under the current infrastructure make things very difficult for long term maintenance whereas getting our own site up and operation means we will be able to tweak whatever we want.
(Do we have a name yet?)
No - this is linked to the domain naming aspect - I’m planning on using a subdomain of an existing domain - which sounds technical but really translates to “it will not cost us anything”.
megan at 115
However,happy to donate towards bandwidth/running costs as I previously have with William.
I’m aiming for something that is completely free from financial support. It’s not a done deal yet - but if things play out according to the plan we will be truly independent. For the moment - keep fingers crossed!
I have a soft spot for your? original Pobus moniker,Ecky.
Or maybe …..
Pollbus
Pollbusters
Pollblogs r us
Polls r us
Ozpolls r us
Pollstruth …as in ’struth…good old oz vernacular
Ozpolls us
Quite liked Jen’s Polldancers,but then we girls would, wouldn’t we?
Not sure if this such a good idea after all! What will several of Bilbo’s followers have to post about once we get this all sorted… certainly would be novel if it was on topic, instead of on us
I would like to thank you all for this site .It is a pleasure to visit.Informative,witty,passionate and most of all none of the petty nastiness that goes on at other sites.I don’t know how many times I have laughed out loud at comment by Jen and KR, or EC with his morning dose of cartoons.Your gathering in Brissy should be a hoot.I know Poss is busy educating the ignorant,and doing a very good job as usual, but if he shows up for your party could you please have a word to him about popping back into this site occasionally.Thanks again.
Hey jayne - not sure we’ve met before but.. get on board girl - it’s great fun and you even get to learn a thing or two. Good to see you pop up - and you are welcome to Brissy of course.
This is my list of who(m) I think should be invited - and apologies to anyone I have forgotten:- apart from those previously mentioned
Swing Lowe
Jaundiced View
Max
Zoom
Grace
Tabitha (ok - kidding)
And obviously- Diogenes, Socartes and all other great sages from the classics
..please add others.
This election is like no other in my lifetime that I can recall. And none of them had te internet - so lets honour the significance. Add your suggested names. Even if they don’t get there in person we can use the technology to make this an incredible day to tell our grandchildren about.
Now that we have placed Barry in a proper position busily setting up the organisation he needs to run the USA, perhaps we can look at other parts of the world, of course still keeping a close eye to see whether he needs our undoubted wisdom and encouragement.
This being Australia, most of us have roots in other parts of the world. For some, their understanding of their country/countries of origin may still be stuck at the point when they left it. It would be interesting to see how things have changed in the countries we or our ancestors left to come to Australia.
For some like myself, the ancestor roots go far back, from Europe (Holland, Germany, France, Scotland) to Africa, and finally to England then Australia.
All these places have changed substantially since first the ancestors emigrated, or more recently when I and my family moved on.
Our memory of our places of origin are of course tainted by our situation and the policies in place at the time we left. Things have surely changed, whether for better or worse. It would also be interesting to see how our understanding of our country of origin has changed as we grew older, and history moved on. Not all would have seen as massive changes as I see looking at South Africa, the country I still see as my homeland, but things change and attitudes change even over quite a short period.
Any suggestions?
August 13th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Folks - you have to change your name.
Pollbludger isnt legally Billbowes as a trademark, but it’s synonymous with William Bowe’s work.
Since he’s asked for it to be changed, his request ought to be respected if for no other reason than he created Pollbludger, his work on his site created this community and riding off the tails of another persons site name after they’ve asked for it to cease (regardless of the circumstances, the best of intentions or the complications along the way) is just not a “good thing”
Changing site names is simple - start a new blog name, go to the admin backend, go to Manage, then import, click wordpress and follow the instructions.
The entire site is then moved across to the new one, including comments.
But it needs to be done guys.
I appreciate the complexity of what happened leading up to pollbludger.wordpress.com, but the bullet really needs to bit.. so to speak.
Just because it’s the right thing to do.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
possum-
Greens though I am, and Laborite marsupial that you are…
I love you.
I really really really hope that those of us that have become part of the OzBlog community can move on and be separate but connected, if you know what I mean- bit like you and Bilbo for example.
But if someone fed off our site and called it PossumUS, I would not like it.
Sorry Guys, not trying to cause disharmony, but do have to stand by what appears right.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
i meant YOUR site…
August 13th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I think we should make a wikipedia entry for William. See how long it takes the cultists to delete it
(apologies if anyone here is a frequent editor of the site and takes offence at that comment, but you know deep down it’s true)
Anyway, in a somewhat rare moment, I agree with Possum. I also agree with jen, although I don’t exactly know who she is.
Right then, back to watching the ads on channel seven, although I wish they would stop interrupting them with the Olympics so often, it’s getting ridiculous.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Max-
Alright. I am at major fault - forgive me. You are now welded into my psyche as the person that was Totally Wrong, But Put Me Onto the West Wing: accolades and flowers.
now stop punishing me.: I was overwraught.
As for the Olympics - when do they start?
(And who cares?)
August 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I think it’s all a question of good will and good relations. William let’s far too much criticism of this site and it’s posters, slide, on his own site. As a casual observer, you can’t help but come to the conclusion that he endorses some of it and get’s a chuckle out of other of it. I can understand if the convener’s of this site feel aggrieved and balk at this sudden desire to play fair and all do what’s right, for the good of the country, or whatever…..Just a layman’s opinion.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Name. I agree that a new name is good. Some suggestions -
Poll Watch
Pollie Watch
The name is not that important provided key words are used for the site to attract people with an interest in US election. Suggest not putting US in name if there is any thought of dealing with Oz issues as well.
William obviously wishes to maintain a “moderate” character on his site which is his option but given the lack of intelligent conservative contributions that is very difficult.
This site currently has a somewhat left/green direction but that doesn’t mean that strong debate can’t occur on all sorts of issues.
The site just needs to avoid allowing comment/attack to get personal and to deal with people who don’t want to follow sensible rules in a straight-forward way. Sorting wheat from chaff is useful - getting distracted by people who want to cause mischief is not smart and can just look like blood sport.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
and so……??????
we need to work this out people.
and if we have a difference of opinion, then how do we, in fact work it out ?
August 14th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
jen at 108
I’ll have the Future Directions page up by the weekend (maybe even tomorrow). It will include a migration plan that I’ve been working on with EC.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Good for you Catrina (and Ecky)- you are doing a fantastic job, so i hope you don’t think I’m being critical - just want to see a resolution.
Thanks.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Possum you old piffle plinker you; a good thing to link one week but not the next; do keep us up to speed on the “good thing”.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Codger, I just need a new site name to link into!
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Details on the plan to move forward are detail in the following link.
http://pollbludger.wordpress.com/about/directions/
August 15th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Catrina- I understood pretty much nothing of the tech stuff, but get the idea that there is a whole new separate independent site happening.
(Do we have a name yet?)
Thanks for all your dedication and work - amazing!!
August 15th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Cat,
Have not had time to rub any braincells together of late though was logged in and regularly checking spaminbox.
However,happy to donate towards bandwidth/running costs as I previously have with William.
Second all that Jen said above….where would we be without you?
August 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Poss, what was ‘wrong’ with the old link you had?
Horse or Camel?
August 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Ah, so that was you megan, I thought I felt something

August 15th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
117,

August 15th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
jen at 114
Your absolutely correct. The technical restrictions under the current infrastructure make things very difficult for long term maintenance whereas getting our own site up and operation means we will be able to tweak whatever we want.
No - this is linked to the domain naming aspect - I’m planning on using a subdomain of an existing domain - which sounds technical but really translates to “it will not cost us anything”.
megan at 115
I’m aiming for something that is completely free from financial support. It’s not a done deal yet - but if things play out according to the plan we will be truly independent. For the moment - keep fingers crossed!
August 16th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
interesting to read on William’s site that this site has apparently “failed”. some people cant tolerate being irrelevant and not wanted can they???
August 17th, 2008 at 8:26 am
“(Do we have a name yet?)”
Sep-Poll Watch Oz* .
“All the news that’s fit to publish……. online”.
* handy serving suggestion
August 17th, 2008 at 11:24 am
I have a soft spot for your? original Pobus moniker,Ecky.
Or maybe …..
Pollbus
Pollbusters
Pollblogs r us
Polls r us
Ozpolls r us
Pollstruth …as in ’struth…good old oz vernacular
Ozpolls us
Quite liked Jen’s Polldancers,but then we girls would, wouldn’t we?
August 17th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Not sure if this such a good idea after all! What will several of Bilbo’s followers have to post about once we get this all sorted… certainly would be novel if it was on topic, instead of on us
August 20th, 2008 at 4:17 am
Jen@123,
Have refrained for so long because of….would be useful if there was some ‘backroom’ where these things could get discussed without fear of ridicule.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Excellent…great work guys
September 8th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Thanks Catrina and others.
Cheers
October 4th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I would like to thank you all for this site .It is a pleasure to visit.Informative,witty,passionate and most of all none of the petty nastiness that goes on at other sites.I don’t know how many times I have laughed out loud at comment by Jen and KR, or EC with his morning dose of cartoons.Your gathering in Brissy should be a hoot.I know Poss is busy educating the ignorant,and doing a very good job as usual, but if he shows up for your party could you please have a word to him about popping back into this site occasionally.Thanks again.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Get a life, ronnie, you sad little man.
October 9th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
You stunning moderator , you Ecky!
(can’t we know what he said… go on…)
October 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Hey jayne - not sure we’ve met before but.. get on board girl - it’s great fun and you even get to learn a thing or two. Good to see you pop up - and you are welcome to Brissy of course.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
This is my list of who(m) I think should be invited - and apologies to anyone I have forgotten:- apart from those previously mentioned
Swing Lowe
Jaundiced View
Max
Zoom
Grace
Tabitha (ok - kidding)
And obviously- Diogenes, Socartes and all other great sages from the classics
..please add others.
This election is like no other in my lifetime that I can recall. And none of them had te internet - so lets honour the significance. Add your suggested names. Even if they don’t get there in person we can use the technology to make this an incredible day to tell our grandchildren about.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:50 am
oops- wrong thread!
also MayoFeral
November 9th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Now that we have placed Barry in a proper position busily setting up the organisation he needs to run the USA, perhaps we can look at other parts of the world, of course still keeping a close eye to see whether he needs our undoubted wisdom and encouragement.
This being Australia, most of us have roots in other parts of the world. For some, their understanding of their country/countries of origin may still be stuck at the point when they left it. It would be interesting to see how things have changed in the countries we or our ancestors left to come to Australia.
For some like myself, the ancestor roots go far back, from Europe (Holland, Germany, France, Scotland) to Africa, and finally to England then Australia.
All these places have changed substantially since first the ancestors emigrated, or more recently when I and my family moved on.
Our memory of our places of origin are of course tainted by our situation and the policies in place at the time we left. Things have surely changed, whether for better or worse. It would also be interesting to see how our understanding of our country of origin has changed as we grew older, and history moved on. Not all would have seen as massive changes as I see looking at South Africa, the country I still see as my homeland, but things change and attitudes change even over quite a short period.
Any suggestions?
December 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
kerneels at 133
we the people - we own it - go for it