It has been clear for a long while now that the Democrats will increase their control of the US Senate, the question has always been by how much and can they reach the 60 votes required to win a vote on ‘cloture‘ and force though legislation. With several races in the bag and others that could go either way, I thought I would look at the races and state how likely it is that the Democrats will reach the magic number.
The Democrats currently control 51 seats in the 100 seat Senate. There are 35 senate elections occurring on November 4, 11 of which are considered competitive and 10 of those are currently held by the Republicans. The only Democratic seat in any danger is in Louisiana and is held by Mary Landrieu. The last poll conducted by a major polling organisation had her lead ballooning out to 53-37 on Aug 17, so she should now be safe.
The Republican seats that are almost certain to fall are Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Virginia. Alaska is looking sure to fall as well, where Sen. Ted Stevens is not only likely to lose his seat, but is also at risk of crossing his Bridge only to discover that while Nowhere lacks basic amenities, it does have a jail cell. That gets the Democrats to 56.
The seats that are currently statistical ties are Minnesota and Oregon, with North Carolina’s last 3 polls being 48-42 Rep, 35-35 Tie and 51-45 Dem for a average of 42.67 each. In Mississippi Republican Roger Wicker has held a lead of about 48-43 for a couple of months while in Maine, Susan Collins looks sure to retain her seat.
Taking the optimistic view that the economic situation will help the Democrats, it therefore leaves the Senate line-ball on either 59 or 60. A more reserved outlook however would put the Democrats on 56.
There is also the question of Joe Lieberman. If the Senate becomes 56-44, there is a chance that he would be thrown out of the party. However if the result is 59-60 then the need to ensure his vote will see him remain. Lieberman will not leave himself, as that would lose him his positions on committees, including 3 chairmanships. The Democrat numbers also include Independent Socialist Bernie Sanders from Vermont, but there is not question that he will continue to causus with the Democrats.
857 replies on “The Senate: Democrat By How Much?”
Yes please, Ferny, it’s been fermenting for quite some time one suspects:)
“Schadenfreude” Dio?
Whatever do you mean? LOL
(Actually it’s not much fun if you have to feel superior to some ‘challenged’ misfits, is it?)
Major help in the form of the European Union maybe?
No probs Ecky. I think the title is in my last post.
It’ll have to wait till this evening though. Then I’ll have to go behind the curtain and figure out how to work the controls on this here Tardis.
Hey Dio! Good to see you.
I hope you wiped your feet before coming in here. There’s an awful lot of bulls*it on the floor in that other place and we don’t want it stinking up our nice new carpets.
WCU/NPR Poll: Obama Ahead By Ten In Pennsylvania.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/06/wcunpr_poll_obama_ahead_by_ten_in_pennsylvania.html
The Spanish finance minister is a bit miffed he was not invited to the crisis meeting yesterday, supposedly. Yes, Spain will likely need the intervention of the EU to some extent. I guess if they can help you after a crisis hits that might be a reason to join. So I see your point.
A Limited Town Hall
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/06/a_limited_town_hall.html
Just saw the funniest thing on Sky News. Craig James from Commsec was waffling on about how the rate cut will be 0.5%. 10 seconds later the RBA gave a full 1% cut and Craig James was left hanging on air looking like he was talking shit! Roflol!
Poor bastard…. ouch!
Bush urges ‘lame duck’ senate to approve new US judges.
Yeah, right let’s run out and do what he says, we’re that dumb!
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jgDhrNErKNS_zIcI1eBA1GwwwGzA
Two separate headlines on Google News just a little bit apart.
P-I endorsement: Elect Obama.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/382005_obamaed.html
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Possum Comitatus
Classic! LOL
I had a sneaking suspicion they might go the tonne since they’ve been sloshing liquidity into the system and just may want to see some ‘trickle down’ to the punters, who will be tightening belts in fear if nothing else.
I didn’t hear anyone talk about 1%, it’s so unheard of around these parts.
I wonder how many members of the jury are paying attention to the financial crises at the moment?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4957E420081007
Likewise KR – all my mates were modelling in 0.5, with 0.25 either side just to be sure for tomorrows corporate analysis handouts.
They’re going to be busy little bumpkins for the rest of the day!
Can understand it in hindsight – a full 100 points rise gives 50 for the banks balance sheets and 50 for the punters to shore up demand, but I never thought the RBA would have had the balls actually! 🙂
“rise” – or “cut” even… been living too long under All Tip.
And the ASX is in the green…right on cue.
De-coupling? We have lift off!
Yeah, Poss, that Stevens has cojones.
I must admire a guy who puts up rates just before a Federal election and sticks the Treasurer in the eye! LOL
Doggone it! That “up by ten” in Penn sure sounds purty.
Publishing your upcoming piece is almost idiot-proof, Ferny, but naturally, if you become plagued with anxiety or have any last minute concerns before clicking the “Publish” button, just holler:)
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Serious question to PC and KR;
Is there much likelihood of our Big Four banks either having a “run” or them or “going under”?
Had a squiz at what happened here in The Great Depression on wiki but couldn’t really get a handle on that terrifying prospect occurring now, one way or the other.
Nope Ecky – since Westpac nearly went under in the last recession, APRA has made sure the big 4 particularly have their shit together. The only real benefit of having:
a) A banking cartel
b)One of the safest debt repayment populations in the world based on housing mortgages
…. is that the big four cant really go under. If things ever got to the point where one of them did go under – banks going under would really be the least of our worries!
Bank runs happen when people don’t believe their money in a given bank will still be there tomorrow. The unofficial system at the moment in Oz is that even though the big four all have deposit insurance to stop that eventuality from arising, the RBA would step in with Treasury and guarentee savings.
I still think the financial crisis isn’t a crisis, but the great de-leveraging that had to happen. I cant see unemployment shooting up to 20% in the US or the EU, I cant see most industrial and agricultural production shutting down for lack of demand. I can see everyone being forced to put it back into their pants for the next decade, but a full blown economic Depression isnt something I see as being on the cards simply because there is far too much real wealth being created across the globe.
Montana Democratic Party Sues to Stop Republican Voter Challenges
They can’t win it by fair means so lets try foul means.
http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/democratic_party_sues_to_stop_republican_voter_challenges/C37/L37/
McCain works to drive voters from Obama.
Maybe these sort of headlines will make sure of a big turnout.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5isI5qG5IF1HyU5drewdLnEjS-ICQ
Can’t see how this campaign will do much for Ms Palin’s reelection in Alaska either. I mean, even the good folks of Alaska (wink) don’t vote for losers (wink wink) – especially stupid ones.
You betcha.
Has anyone else read the Jay Cost article on RealClearPolitics? It has an analysis of Obama’s favourables after the Reverend Wright scandal broke. It is not a pretty graph for Obama. Jay was speculating that perhaps the Wright issue might assist McCain if his surrogates go hard at it for the next little while as undecided voters make up their minds. I am not sure how much I buy that it will have all that big an impact – I expect the polls to tighten by a point or two no matter what – but I also do not buy that it will have no impact or that the impact will be negated by Palin’s preacher. Obama is not running against Palin.
I will not bother with the link, as it gets swallowed. The article is on the main page, at the top.
Thanks, Possum. That’s most reassuring. Didn’t really want to face the fulltime prospect of doing schtick in Sunshine Plaza or busking in Queen St Mall in order to put food on my family.
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Jay Cost, RCP, RW blogsite.
Gouldie, Teh Economy didn’t feature as an issue during the first Wright smears because, as Senator McCain reassured Americans till last week, “the fundamentals of the economy are sound”.
Now, Team McCain have been swiftboated by their own ideology. The bastards can rant and rail till the cows come home but ’twill be to no avail because a clear majority of Seps are switched off to their bleatings in a similar way that a majority of us were swithched-off to all things El Rodente in the run up to last November.
820 Possum and others. One of the problems to look at is that over the last 25 years with deregulation the “financial services” sector of the economy seems to have about doubled. I would be surprised if a sane economy couldn’t get by with the % from 25 years ago. That would mean freeing up quite a few 100,000 workers in Oz for useful employment in areas such as environmental repair, climate change research and implementing solutions etc. I imagine the US and other OECD is probably similar. The problem is that we might get the job losses without the committment to alternative employment. But its certain that we should rip into arguments that we cant afford to radically deal with climate change because of the financial crises.
824 David Gould It won’t rate compared to this David. I would love to watch the worm when Obama mentions this. This has been sent to millions by email. The Republicans will look like rank amateurs compared to the Repugs. Haven’t you been following this site today?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_922988
Sorry, The Repugs compared to the Democrats.
824 David Gould It’s the economy! (and Bush. Mr 22% popularity)!
It makes the “Swift Boating” look pathetic!
David further more,
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14349.html
Obama’s new theme song. Not quite the right camera angles. 😈 Damn!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=stF2mXucm_w
Memo:
Steve “Schmuckens” Schmidt,
Chief Strategist,
McCain/Palin Campaign, 2008.
Steve,
Seems you’ve had a bit of bad luck lately. That’s what happens when you ignore good advice. What’s the matter with you, Steve, didn’t you read the email Karl sent you about Rawhide’s Law? Yup, you got it, Buddy. Rawhide’s Law!
“When a political party becomes too mavericked-up, it will always need a steering committee to restore herd parity”
Lift your game, Steve, or GTF out of an honourable P.O.W.’s mission to keep America safe from people who want to pal around with terrorists.
Best,
E.C.
(politic.osm.net)
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Colorado looks pretty close with the kid with his nose in front.
If any ECV’s are about to be stolen by machines this has almost got to be the perfect situation. It is all geared for a steal:
http://coloradoindependent.com/10441/is-colorado-ready-for-nov-4
ferny at 761
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It’s fixed!
🙂
CBet latest:
OBAMA, Barack 1.19
MCCAIN, John 4.40
836 Enemy Combatant FCUK!
A little light relief:
“ALL four major banks have tonight cut their standard variable rates by 80 basis points following the shock 1pc cut by the Reserve Bank.”
The Australian
OMG
Obama is ahead now in Missouri(50-47, according to Rasmussen)
I’m going to stop being cautious!
In my view, Obama has a certain 264 electoral votes, including Iowa and New Mexico. McCain is falling even further behind in Pennsylvania/Michigan/Minnesotta – he’s got no chance of picking up even one Kerry state.
So, Obama needs only another 6 electoral votes, or one out of:
Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia.
Surely the odds favour him picking up at least one of these
And if the landslide is on, Colorado/Nevada/Indiana/Missouri come into the picture, maybe even Georgia too(if there’s a huge black voter turnout).
No doubt the polls will narrow, and McCain’s smear campaign might hurt the kid, but Obama has more options open to victory.
McCain really needs a huge performance in tomorrow’s debate, even to stay at least remotely competitive.
Progressive
Don’t be too sure about the polls narrowing.
Apparently Americans start getting their 401k reports in the mail from tomorrow.
*insert ANGER smiley
838 The banks should be forced to pass on full amount of official changes but have some discretion to vary own rates. Put onus on banks to justify any unofficial variations instead of hiding behind RBA. Inflation target goes out window (good thing as mindless adherence to limited number of measures is bound to cause problems sooner or later) – with $A falling imports will be dearer although fear of lower sales/recession will help limit price rises in more competitive sectors (ie nor supermarkets, fuel etc)
839 – Don’t forget Texas and Arizona. Smoke out the rat nests!
What I Learned At The Sarah Palin Rally Before They Threw Me Out!
Linda Milazzo got thrown out for calling the Fence a liar:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/What-I-Learned-At-The-Sara-by-Linda-Milazzo-081007-243.html
Keith Olbermann lays into Sarah Palin for her remarks about Obama “pallin’ around with terrorists” and her own less than perfect past.
Olbermann: Terrorists? It’s Palin doing the pallin’
820
Possum
Are you sure?
This article in the UK Tele is a bit different to your take on it.
Can you reassure us again that we will not have to make a runner?
I have a gold tooth!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3141428/Germany-takes-hot-seat-as-Europe-falls-into-the-abyss.html
OK Cat & Ecky…the job is done and awaits your preview
Gaffy @ 845 rescued from spam-limbo.
Ta ministress Megan.
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What a hoot!
He should lay in to her about all the abortion clinic bombers and shootings as well. They all belonged to the pro life religious nutters she likes to entertain.
McStupid and the Fence are now in the category of elephant ball biters and their chickens will come back to them the size of a
emuAlaskan Moose and kick their shithouse down.844 GhostWhoVotes I wonder what his ratings are?
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Go Ferny
Hope we do not need legal brief to interpret!
Palins May Owe Tens of Thousands of Dollars in Back Taxes
http://www.electoral-vote.com
Also a report on troopergate may find Palin misused her power.
http://www.electoral-vote.com
Liberty University to Cancel Classes on Election Day
There’s more…
http://www.electoral-vote.com
Jon Stewart with some more on the VP debate
http://www.thedailyshow.com/index.jhtml
Also a list of the senate seats for 2010.
http://www.electoral-vote.com
If anyone hasn’t noticed Maine is well within striking distance in the senate. 10%
New post up by Ferny Grover …
Red is Blue and the Whitehouse Black