A Rear Admirals’ Vice is A Vice Admiral in his Rear!

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Well Gaffy, I just finished watching Media watch and I despair of anything in the MSM getting better anytime soon.

Adding insult to injury. I’ve just heard that this year’s Andrew Ollie lecture will be presented by none other than that prince of the small screen………Ray Martin!!! 🙁

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Ecky.
There’s something about a Baroness……..that just brings out the inner Bill Ayres in me.

link:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93PD0880&show_article=1

Fact-Checking the Ayers Allegations: So Wrong, It’s “Pants on Fire” Wrong.

For most of the election, Sen. John McCain ’s campaign has been somewhat subtle about trying to tie Sen. Barack Obama to the former ‘60s radical William Ayers.

No longer. A 90-second Web ad released Oct. 8, 2008, features sinister music, side-by-side photographs of Obama and Ayers, and a series of dubious allegations about their past connections, including this one:

“Ayers and Obama ran a radical education foundation together.”

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002974214

OK – last one for the day…
Sarah outdoes herself.

“Help me, Ohio, to help put John McCain in the White House,” she said. “He understands. He understands you. We understand how important it is that this team be elected. For one thing, we know who the bad guys are, OK?”

That statement elicited scattered shouts of “Obama!” throughout the crowd.

“We know that in the war, it’s terrorists, terrorists who hate America and her allies and would seek to destroy us, and the bad guys are those who would support and sympathize with the terrorists,” she said. “They do not like America because of what we stand for. Liberty. Freedom. Equal rights. Those who sympathize and support those terrorists who would seek to destroy all that it is that we value, those are the bad guys, OK?”

Oh FFS.

Chris B at 405 it continues to astound me that McCain-Palin put out stuff that is patently false and easily shown to be so. Now I know that the voters are gullible (they who voted in GWB twice) but the media seems to be all over the Repug campaigns negative strategy and mistruths so why give them more fodder?? The answer is that they must be really really desparate and have absolutely nothing left to offer.

And whats with the McCain campaign ANNOUNCING every move like pulling out of states, trying to shift focus from economy, etc etc?? Why would you do that, and why preempt a big economic announcement today unless you were absolutely sure there was won. Are these guys seriously trying to lose, or what??

McCain’s two biggest stuff ups so far have been:
1. Selection of Palin as running mate
2. The stunt of the phony suspension of his campaign/failed attempt to grandstand and involve himself in the financial crisis
I wonder what’s next? Maybe letting the redneck/racist dog off the leash?

McCain in Trouble with Latinos

McCain’s relationship with the Latino community has been poisoned by the anti-immigrant Tancredo wing of the Republican party, but also by McCain himself. When he coauthored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, which would have provided a path to citizenship for 12 million illegals, many of them Latinos, he was cheered by the Latino community. For a while it looked like he could have gotten more than the 40% of the Latino vote that Bush got in 2004. But when he rejected his own bill and said he would veto it if Congress passed it, the Latinos bailed on him. Four key swing states–Florida, Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico–have large Latino populations and he has developed a profound weakness there that is probably too late to repair. Earlier this year when McCain was forced to make a choice–between the Tancredos and the Latinos–he chose the Tancredos and he has now discovered that you reap what you sow.

http://www.electoral-vote.com

413 Catrina I remember commenting they were slow in catching up with Politic 101. We are the trend setters!

Obama Camp’s Travel Seems a Factor In Recent Leads in Battleground States.
The Democrats Have Appeared at 95 Events, While It’s Just 55 for the Republicans.

Sen. Barack Obama, his running mate and his wife have appeared at twice as many events in swing states as their Republican counterparts, which may help explain the Democrat’s lead in many battleground-state polls.

In the five weeks since the fall campaign officially began, Sen. Obama, his wife, Michelle, and vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden have appeared at a total of 95 separate events in states that both sides are contesting.

Sen. John McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, have appeared at 55 events in those areas, with Cindy McCain, the nominee’s wife, adding only one more to the total, according to a Wall Street Journal tally based on schedules provided by the campaigns.

The old man has to be in bed by 8 o’clock.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122383794476626615.html

Discontent Buffets the Nation; Bush Craters, Obama Benefits.

A tornado of economic discontent is buffeting the nation, sending satisfaction with the country’s direction to a 35-year low, George W. Bush’s approval rating below Richard Nixon’s worst – and Barack Obama, boosted by economic empathy, to his best-yet advantage in the presidential race.
Given the global economic crisis, a record 90 percent of registered voters say the country is seriously off on the wrong track, the most since this question first was asked in 1973. At 23 percent, Bush’s job approval rating has fallen below Nixon’s lowest; it’s a point away from the lowest in 70 years of polling, set by Harry Truman in early 1952. Bush’s disapproval, meanwhile, is at an all-time record – 73 percent.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=6017487

Hello again.

I haven’t read all the posts – presumably you’ve all seen the footage of McCain trying to rationalise with his core repub audience that Obama is neither an Arab nor a terrorist. Some people are commenting it was the decent thing to do, but juxtaposed with Palin continuing her incendiary attacks on Obama, I can only conclude that McCainis an opportunist. He’s happy to play it both ways.
Media here is saturated with comments on the potential influence of the race factor. Don”t you just love how the media can’t bring itslef to say the word “racism, instead they’re all talking about “the Bradley Effect”. I really haven’t heard any incisive analysis, so I don’t have any great insight for you. But Palin’s current stump speech has brought about a real focus on racism here.
In the subway station on the weekend I saw Obamas face grace the front of at least 6 magazines, including Time. McCain magazine covers = zero. OK – it”s not a gauge of much, but how much more interesting the Obama story is, and perhaps that he’s more photogenic.
See ya.

Latest Survey USA poll for Missouri has Obama at an 8-point lead (?!?!):

Obama 51
McCain 43

I concur with some other posters on 538.com who have commented on this poll… if this is replicated in other polls, then McCain is well and truly toast on the grand scale.

Hi KatieLou – yep we’re onto tyhe McCain ‘settle down now, we don’t wanrt to be seen as the R-word” tactic, having happily unleashed the beast for the past week and lettting Sarah go for it with the ‘terrorist’ implications.
scum.
Glad to hear the yanks are onto it.

as for Obi being more more photogenic: he looks positively presidential these days!
Have fun..

I may not have heard this correctly, but I thought Malcolm Turnbull just said President Obama on the AM show this morning.

Grrr! sill+ still

Missouri: Wow!
Arizona: WTF
If McTosser can’t win his home state, I’ll be really laughing my arse off!

Jen at 406. Huffpost refers to an ABC poll showing McCain trailing Obama by 10 points and commenting, “We’ve got them just where we want them.” LOL!

Maybe he’s auditioning for a gig on SNL.

Democratic Congressman mired in scandal!
Just watch the MSM make a lot out of this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/13/14239/762/151/629374

434 jen Republican candidate taken to Texas and hung.

Well Paddy – Obama is indeed blessed to have the nod from the great Mr Hitchens. Must be a great relief to him. 🙄
He will have Adam Carr supporting him soon .

Cool Obama turns the heat up on rival.

Constant parallels are drawn between today’s financial meltdown and the Great Depression of the 1930s. Barack Obama, who some point out is the clearest beneficiary of today’s crisis, takes that parallel a stage further.

In every speech, the Democratic presidential candidate makes sure to quote Franklin D. Roosevelt, elected president in 1932, who said: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f521bc2a-9957-11dd-9d48-000077b07658.html

spammy – it’s on the home page on line.
let me know if you can’t find it.

progressive-
spose mcCain has to at least look like he is trying 😉

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Prog
According to surveys done world wide and in the US it is not unreasonable to assume that if there are 800 politicians in both houses of the US Government then 200 of them are having a root out of school. Only the odd one here and there is dumb enough to get caught:

Other authors say that between 20% and 25% Americans had sex with someone other than their spouse[4].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extramarital_sex

Prog, if Macca lost Arizona it would be sweet revenge for Gore’s home state loss. Would it not?

McCains biggest problem now is TURNOUT. With an Obama win seen by many as a foregone conculsion, many repugs will not bother turning up. Dems are energised and wary of electoral shenanigans so will show up in droves

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Paddy
That BC is definitely fake.
The real truth is out now!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EADUQWKoVek

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Gaffy
I’m Speechless!!
Kenyan to Feenian, it’s the American way.

Gaffhook @461
Deary,deary me! I’m irish from me green teeth to the shamrocks growing between me toes. Your clip brought back the happy childhood days before the split, when to be catholic was to vote Labor, and me dear old dad used to chair the branch ALP meetings in the crypt under ST Mary’s after 10 o’clock Mass.. Proddies welcome, but be prepared to be sprinkled with holy water.
That Obama is a broth of a boy, isn’t he just?

The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama

He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”
Until this month, the man who is widely credited with starting the cyberwhisper campaign that still dogs Mr. Obama was a secondary character in news reports, with deep explorations of his background largely confined to liberal blogs.

But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground. The program allowed Mr. Martin to assert falsely and without challenge that Mr. Obama had once trained to overthrow the government.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

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Gaffhook

Can’t you just feel Rome’s Imperium slipping away a day at a time?

Questions that Should Be Asked of McCain at Wednesday’s Debate:

The most important purpose of our national news media is to report, clarify and explain issues that have the potential to affect the lives of the American people. Especially in the days, weeks and months preceding a Presidential election, the press should hold the candidates to account for misleading voters with respect to the major issues of the day. Since John McCain has repeatedly misled our country’s voters on so many issues, it is especially important that they confront him with his lies and mis-statements, and give him a chance to explain them.

But do not do a trapezescrotum waiting for them to be asked. And just in case they are asked do not expect a proper answer.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/371

Gaffhook, that’s a great list of questions. I would like Obama to ask why McCain has run a dirty campaign when he ralised against GWB’s primary campaign against him. He should say something like “I thought more of you John, youve changed…”

Great to see you again, Grace!

Thanks, SpamBo, it’s close to me fave Bors cartoon so far. Each caption fair dripping with contempt and ridicule for bigots American.

Gaffy and Gippslander, ’tis indeed a magnificent clip (Gaffy at 461)!!

….”Cheny and Bush, they are all ignorama
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama…”

Gonna get the words down on A4 and distribute ’em to attendees of our Nov 5 bash and at the appropriate moment we’re gonna raise the rafters off the Jubilee Pub in Brisbane’s fair city where the girls are so pretty….

You wouldn’t wanna miss it for quids!!
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Yeah, Kirri, the indelible Irish Catholic guilt so ingrained with the faith of me fathers drives me to apologise for my calorifically incorrect comments.

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Here you go Ecky.
(I can’t get the damn thing out of my head.)

Recorded by Cal Herrmann, with help from Micha Dunston, on September 14th, 2008 at the Sunday night Irish music session at the Starry Plough pub in Berkeley, California.
http://www.starryploughpub.com/history/
This is an open music and song session, now running weekly for over thirteen years.

The basics of the song started with the Corrigan Brothers in Ireland. http://www.HardyDrew.com They placed a vid on You tube. The extra words, with a different interpretation and presentation, by Shay Black at Lark Music camp in August ’08.

Shay challenged people to write extra verses and these contributions came from Celia Ramsey, Chris Caswell, Walter Askew (Salty Walt), Craig Johnson, Tom Clancy, Barry Gleeson, Dave Sahn, Peter Heelan.
———————–
Chorus:
O’Leary, O’Reilly, O’Hare and O’Hara
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama
From the old Blarney Stone to the green Hills of Tara
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

You don’t believe me, I hear you say
But Barack’s as Irish as our own JFK
His granddaddy’s granddaddy came from Moneygall
A village in Offaly, well known to you all.

His mam’s daddy’s granddaddy was Falmuth Kearney
He’s as Irish as any from the Lakes of Killarney
His mam’s from a long line of great Irish Mamma’s
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

He’s as Irish as bacon and cabbage and stew
He’s Hawaiian; he’s Kenyan; American too.
And if he succeeds and he has a chance
I’m sure that our Barack will do Riverdance

He looks after his own, a true son of St. Patrick
He chose as his mate, Joe Biden, a Cat’lick,
Proddies, Jews, Muslims, even the Dalai Lama
Know there’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama.

Our Barack’s a hero, I’ve heard them say
Fenian to Kenyan, the American Way
He’s Cuchulainn, Liongo, not Vishnu or Brahma
But there’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

A name is a name and there’s no doubt about it
Barack O’Bama’s name, you can shout it
Whether apostrophe or inverted comma
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama.

Now you Hillary supporters don’t you vote for McCain
And the VP needs brains, so forget about Palin
With Cheney and Bush, they are all ignorama
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

From Kerry and Cork to old Donegal
Let’s hear it for Barack, from old Moneygall
From the Lakes of Killarney to old Connemara
There’s no one as Irish as Barack O’Bama

Last Chorus:
Tooral – U,
Tooral – S,
Tooral – A,
Toor a lama
There’s no one as Irish as
Barack O’Bama

from
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=113962&messages=33

The expressions on the faces of the chiefs of Citigroup and Morgan Stanely as they descend the steps from the Treasury yesterday say it all. They look like the cats that just ate the cream…$10 billion each from that nice Mr Paulson in his partial nationalisation of the US banking system.

That pic is here:

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/10/13/business/14bailout.2.inline.ready.html

The Vanity Fair article is pretty good, too. I like the openness idea. We need financial instruments that can be explained to the average person. To do this, we need to educate. And the people we mainly need to educate are those doing the explaining.

Gary Kamiya comments about Minnie Moose’s ‘troopergate’ affair:

The GOP claims to be the party of “family values.” It turns out they meant Soprano family values.

…ouch!

That article Grace cited earlier had a great cartoon with it:

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/6/0/3/7/23317306-23317312-slarge.jpg

…now, that’s REALLY scary!

Yes, Ferny, apologised at 471, but will withdraw my comments unreservedly(remove from thread) if anyone objects.
By way of special pleading, have recently been to see “In Bruges” which contained a scene with American tourists who were full and frank with respect of their morphology when insulted by an insensitive working class Irish hit-person.

What do people think of Rudd’s economic restoration package? In disclosure mode, I’ll probably get something from it (although if Chris B wins the bet then he will benefit instead … ;)). Setting that aside, I think that it looks pretty good (apart from the first homebuyers grant – while I could benefit from that if I chose, I think that those kinds of grants are bad public policy).

It looks to me as though it will pretty much ensure that we do not get a recession (or at least not a bad or long one) and allows the Reserve Bank time to consider whether or not another interest rate cut is a good idea. This will enable inflation to be dealt with if it becomes a problem again.

Good policy and good politics, it seems to me – a very unusual combination.

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Ah Ecky,
Living down here, in the darkest and deepest part of the forest in South Gippsland Vic.
I’m barely able to survive on a stale crust of moldy bread and the odd gulp of rusty water.

My “ever so humble” shanty of iron and cardboard, leaks like a sieve and is filled with wild
furry animals that make our psephological possum look positively tame.
(I’ve even christened the vicious wombat that resides under the floorboards……Sarah.)

So alas, despite the best efforts of our sainted Kevin and the red fox Julia to drown us pensioners with money, I’m afraid I’ll just have to watch the proceedings on my clockwork computer and hopefully join in via teh intertubes.

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David Gould

I’m still not sure how much I’ll benefit personally
(I’m on a single disability pension) but it does seem a fairly quick and dirty way to inject a solid dose of cash into the real economy
pre-xmas.
Heh heh, I know this little piggy won’t be putting it into the stockmarket. 🙂

497 paddy I’m originally from Maffra. Gippslander is from Metung (which I know very well).