Looks like a run off for the senate in Georgia. If Martin can get a good share of Buckleys votes in the run offs and get those that had their vote stolen back on the roll he will be in.
The evil little &*%$’s are doing it again.
Even as they drown in the anger of platoons of pissed-off voters, Republican operatives are swiping ballots with both hands.
Ground zero is Georgia. It’s here where the sick little vulture named Saxby Chambliss won the US Senate seat six years ago by calling his Democratic opponent, a guy who’d lost three limbs in Vietnam, a friend of Osama bin Laden.
There’s no way in hell that Chambliss can slime his way back into the Senate in the face of over half a million newly registered voters (Black and young – 69% for Obama) without jacking them out of their votes. That’s what the Republicans are up to. Right now. As we speak.
Over 50,000 the new voters in Georgia have been blocked from voting by using a nasty little new law, the Help America Vote Act signed by George Bush. (Bush is helping us vote – look out!)
Guy Rundle in today’s Crikey has written an ode to joy from one who walked in the streets of Washington on election night. It’s an inspired, fantastic piece.
It’s like a global tsunami from the epicentre of America’s heart, and we’ve all felt it, whether you stood in the streets of Washington or watched it on the other side of the world. I still can’t quite comprehend the magnitude of this seismic event, which will be sending out aftershocks for years, decades, into the future.
What a moment, and what a year we’ve all witnessed. It’s been a joy to be alive and share it with all of you.
Just watched the one hour election night thingo with Jon Stewart and Colbert. Really moving to see them both trying to hold back their tears. I don’t know if anyone else caught the best Colbert episode ever early this year, but Colbert’s father took a stand for black rights in the company he worked for, and was later killed in a plane crash, along with 2 of Colbert’s brothers, when Colbert was a boy. In that episode Colbert interviewed a black man who had worked with Colbert’s father to end a strike by black workers (nurses, I think?) – his father negotiated for equal pay for everyone. The episode ended with Colbert joining with a African American choir singing “Let my People Go”. It was amazing. That episode made me *heart* Colbert. If anyone wants to watch the episode, this link has all the videos. http://www.nofactzone.net/?p=3025
Also moving to see Colin Powell tear up during a CNN interview after the announcement.
For The West Wing tragics amongst us, I saw on CNN that the character of Josh Lyman was modelled on Rahm Emanuel, who is the favourite for Obama’s Chief of Staff.
A shout out to Jen – but I’m a bit embarrassed you don’t seem to be hungover like me. I guess I was a bit of a slosh yesterday! I see Obama took the day off today. We know what’s been going down today, don’t we. 😉
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They’ve changed the Palin as President website. You MUST visit. :heart:
Stop it KatyLou.
I’ve run out of tissues and that one just snuck up
and ambushed me. 🙂
KatieLou – just went to the Palin site…*more tears*
I sat on a plane today with a woman who made it clear that she thought climate change was a lot of crap becaue there ws so much rain last night, and that kids misbehave because their parents are “not like us” and so on. But then..she asked me if I had watched the election, and she started to cry!!!
She said she was so moved to see a black man become POTUS and to see the world change.
Go figure. But it was great to see a conservative person be so moved.
As we have all said on occasion – this is so much bigger than politics.
Kirri R
I’ve said it before but here I go anyway. I would love to see a post election wrap-up thread by you, for many many reasons, any chance that might happen?
The politics of hope is powerful, particularly in parlous times. FDR managed to energise the US in 1933 but its arguable that it took economic imperatives WWII to put country back into “full” employment.
Barak Obama faces daunting tasks, thanks to the Idiot, but he has something that I have seen in few in public life – grace, particularly under pressure (think the brilliant, wonderful, moving and uplifting “Race” speach”). To me it is that quality, together with a formidable questioning intellect that wants people to tell him what they see as unpleasant truths, that gives him a shot at reinvigorating the US to try and attain excellence in cultural, financial, industrial and (particularly) educational matters.
When an ignoramus like Bush as POTUS supports the the intolerant and un-Christian (they just want to show “Jesus how much love is in their hate” – Rude Pundit, I think) on “social issues” and un-“Intelligent Design”, then it lessens the human spirit and the things that made the US such a powerhouse of creativity in science and mathematics.
Obama touches the humanist in me. So does the obvious love that radiates from his family, which far more enabling than the hate-filled message of the Rovian Right.
Jon Stewart severely taking the piss out of Chris Wallace The big boss tosser from Fox FAUX.
Spammy, I’m just enjoying reading everyone else’s comments so much I really don’t think I could say it any better! We’ve all been touched, like the woman on the plane with Jen, in ways that almost defy comprehension. An election, a winning politician…is that all? How could it be so universally uplifting? Everyone will have their memories of this to hand on to their children, to recount in their old age. It’s truly an amazing thing.
At the top of this page is a speech which says it all, and it blows me away every time I see it.
As I said intimated in the previous thread, the guy on Salon who watched 5 hours of Fox “News” on election night and still managed to write a coherent (and funny) article has more my admiration – he’s one of the mentally toughest person I’ve come across.
FIVE hours. I manage 30 seconds before I’m screaming at the tossers they call “commentators” and “presenters”. All of them are in need of prolonged alien anal probes.
KL. I watched that Colbert/Stewart election night gig in the small hours of this morning and it was really something to see them choking up when they announced Obama had won.
Stewart speechless! What does that take, eh? LOL
And that story about COlbert’s dad really shows where Stephen got his cojones to do that gig at Bush’s press corp dinner…one of the most amazingly audacious bits of satire I’ve ever witnessed.
Both of those guys have been dishing out the physic to pomp and buffoonery throughout this campaign and kept many of us sane.
Missouri voters made English the official state language.
My question is does this mean American won’t be taught?
A name for the new Whitehouse dog????
How about….
…..Sarah!
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To me it is that quality, together with a formidable questioning intellect that wants people to tell him what they see as unpleasant truths, that gives him a shot at reinvigorating the US to try and attain excellence in cultural, financial, industrial and (particularly) educational matters.
This, I’ll call it, phenomenum (spelling) of his is one of the things that got me. He had absolutely no problem coming out and saying things like, Okay the ford factory is shutting down and jobs are being lost, we wo’nt let that happen. We will retool them and build wind turbines etc etc. Brilliant insight.
We have nothing like that in the shitheap that calls themselves the Australian Parliament. If there is we hear nothing about it.
Anyone comes up with a good idea the opposition shit cans it first opportunity. What a great wasted country we have here with all its inherent mineral wealth and the aussie and migrant ability to work hard for good reward and what do we get. Watch question time for one hour and you see what we get.
We need a Barack Obama here in this country of any colour or gender who will grab the wealth of this country and spread it far and wide with infrastructure etc to create employment and anyone gets in the way just say mind the steam mechanical roller mate, get out of the fucken way or you will get run over.
Someone touched on it in an earlier thread about all our good inventive brains heading to China and overseas because all the fuckwit politicians in this country don’t want to know them because they are probably not dropping a brown paper bag at the doors of their electoral offices.
Our system is being taken over by the very nature of what has been the norm under Bush for the last 8 years, The professional lobbyists, whose outrageous fees and costs only inflate the products.
No one can get to their local member any more it has to be done by a lobbyist and lobbyists do not happen to come cheap.
Speaking of professional lobbyists, i read tonight that Burke and Wills Grill in Western Australia have both been charged with corruption et al and will probably be at the liesure of her Maj soon. http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24613222-952,00.html
I am getting a bit carried away and should cease.
Ferny @ 116
You’re a shocker. 🙂 🙂 (I love the idea and demand that the dog be a “pit bull”)!
Ferny, it could be a pitbull called “Dipstick” (and no, that’s NOT a typo! )
That’s OK Spammy, I’m flattered that you’d ask, really.
Gaffhook @117
A wonderful piece.
Most pollies have short attention spans, alas slightly longer that most obscenely overpaid CEOs. Howard had his eye on power, little else – and now we are fucked as a result. Instead of spending money on “education”, “education” & “education” he gave cash bonuses to pensioners, 1st home buyers, people with kids, people who’d just popped a kid.
And K08 has kept these stupidities in place for short term political advantage. The December payouts will be piss up against the wall. My long term view has always been that few people are comfortable with money. It makes most their servant – either through greed or debt, sometimes both.
For my father and brother, money is water in their hands. My oldest sister can probably quote the serial number of every banknote she has touched, Luckily, I’m in between thanks to advantages in education and temperament – don’t get involved with an investment decision you have doubts about (it took a few shockers to realise this).
Also, fire you “Financial Adviser”, as I have just done. They are fakirs all.
105 KatieLou Red Symons play that on his show. Red wasn’t fair and balanced, he was pro Obama. He also called the election first, for Obama, before the polls had closed.
Great news about Jeff Merkley in Oregon
I’m still hoping for Democrats gains in Alaska, Georgia and Minnesotta – O.K, maybe only 1 out of 3 is a possibility, and it’s true that Saxby Chambliss has engaged in blatant electoral fraud in Georgia.
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A name for the new Whitehouse dog????
How about….
…..Sarah!
Nah. They have to get a pregnant…. um…lady dog from an animal shelter.
So it has to be Bristol. 😆
Ducking and running.
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From everything I’ve read about Saxby Chambliss, it would be delicious khama if he lost on a re-run.
Georgia has been one of the disappointments of the election.
A second chance at rubbing Republican noses in the dirt would be sweet.
How quickly Bush is receding into the past. How ridiculous he now looks; wrong, inept, mute and lost when compared to the new-comer. I’ve been listening to the radio (as is my habit) and can note that already that jubilation at the win is being paired with awe at the problems to be faced. But palpably, so far, peope think there is at least a chance to take on the challenges. I have never felt like this about anything – more than joy, more than relief, more than astonishment. I think it is really just hope. These tired joints of mine and blinky eyes and stumbling memory are imbued with hope; not some naive wishfulness, but belief that the possible and the necessary is also the attainable. Oh the beauty of it all, at last, at long last. Hope. I am still learning.
Good piece on the daily beast about Obi’s first pick for chief of staff.
But I read somewhere else today, he’s reportedly still deciding if he wants to leave Chicago to take the job.
The president-elect’s first choice for chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel—a pro business quasi neocon whose middle name is Israel—gives the lie to the wildest myths Obama’s opponents spread about him in the campaign.
Barack Obama is experiencing a bit of a boomlet now, but a young black freshman senator with no foreign policy experience is an inviting target for the Republicans. Yes, Jack Kennedy was a freshman senator in 1960, but he had already served two terms in the House and was a war hero in WWII (but Lloyd Bentsen is dead so Obama need not fear him saying: Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy). Also instructive is what happened to Harold Ford, Jr., another charismatic young black Democrat, in the recent Tennessee senatorial election. The Republicans ran a now-infamous bimbo ad showing a sleazy blonde winking at Ford, and Ford lost his lead. The Republicans will harp on Obama’s lack of military service and foreign policy experience, although he could counter that by choosing Wesley Clark as veep and Sam Nunn as Defense Secretary. Still, he probably lacks the gravitas people expect in a president.
That’s a classically ironic line GWV:
“he probably lacks the gravitas people expect in a president.”
…against McCain, or just for a laugh Bush, Obama IS gravitas, and they are but cartoonish figures!
The battle over Proposition 8 in California is set to go to the courts:
The American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and the National Center for Lesbian Rights filed a writ petition before the California Supreme Court today urging the court to invalidate Proposition 8 if it passes. The petition charges that Proposition 8 is invalid because the initiative process was improperly used in an attempt to undo the constitution’s core commitment to equality for everyone by eliminating a fundamental right from just one group– lesbian and gay Californians.
Here’s an idea to stretch across political, geographic and sporting boundaries. Why doesn’t Jeff Kennett despatch John Platten to the US to give Obama a Hawthorn No 44 jumper?
Lots of parallels there, though Greeny might not agree.
G’Day, Ticsters,
The Kid annoints his Josh and Toby-at-large:
ABC News reports:
Former Obama chief strategist David Axelrod has accepted the position of Senior Adviser in the White House, sources tell ABC News.
He will join Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill, who has accepted the position of Obama’s White House Chief of Staff.
Great plane story, jen. If cracker-persons who cling to their guns and religion in NC, VA and IN can vote in enough numbers to turn those States for The Kid, then the lady you spoke with on board who shed a tear at Obi’s ascendance, is a chance to comprehend the Big Picture climate-wise.
Unfortunately there will always be a core of Climate Change deniers who will refuse to accept the peer-reviewed science on the phenomenon until their two million dollar waterfront properties are only good for two thousand dollar a year oyster leases.
I’ll never forget in Jaws how the mayor of the seaside vacation boom-town refused to issue an official warning about the Rogue Shark because it would interfere with town business activity and besides….. there was no proof!!
As for the girls’ puppy, my suggestion is a Fox Terrier named Studs, after Mr.Terkel, author, raconteur, black mucic appreciator and “known” niggah luvvah from Sweet Home Chicago. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4TgTpP7y2MA
Obama wins North Carolina, Missouri too close too call.
Thanks for the Rude Pundit tip, Gaffy. Great stuff.
It’s too far away, and she’s too unimportant, for Planet Janet to get a mention, but otherwise she might have made it. I couldn’t get past her lead headline that electing Obama is somehow racist. Elsewhere Rupert has said he’ll be culling staff. Wonder where he’ll start?
Obama only has to do a half way decent job to wipe the board in two years time. Anything will look good, after the last eight years.
The Democrats will have learnt a lot after what happened to Clinton’s first two years.
Axelrod, Emanuel to Obama White House; Gibbs, Jarrett to Play Key Roles.
Former Obama chief strategist David Axelrod has accepted the position of Senior Adviser in the White House, sources tell ABC News.
Robert Gibbs is also likely to join Obama’s White House as Press Secretary, and Obama would like his confidante Valerie Jarrett to play a key role. The exact parameters have not been set.
They will join Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill, who has accepted the position of Obama’s White House Chief of Staff.
President elect Obama will hold his first press conference on Friday.
The press will play an important part in allaying some peoples fears, and improving confidence. Getting the press on side makes your job a whole lot easier.
Guess what the most popular name for newborns in Kenya is at the moment?
Obama Will Meet Press Tomorrow.
Robert Gibbs, a top aide to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on his campaign and in his Senate office, will be named the White House press secretary, a top Democratic official said.
Gibbs was usually the senior official on Air Obama, the campaign plane. As communications director of Obama’s Senate office, Gibbs was a key strategist in Obama’s rapid move to the national stage.
Transition planning is still at an early stage and the job has not been formally offered or accepted, officials said.
I was expecting an extra boost to Obama from the half hour infomercial, which seemed to maintain the lead rather than enhance it. But all in all it was a very good campaign. Can’t be too picky.
Apart from Georgia there doesn’t seem to be much reporting of voter fraud. This would be one area the Democrats would improve/fix.
Here is a theory. The USA have never experienced anything like socialism. Especially the southern states. Introducing universal health care, fixing the housing problem and a few other things might be enough taste for them to say what’s the fuss about? This is good stuff. We want more. This is after decades of being demonised.
Ecky, it’s good news to see that Axelrod has gone to the WH, since there was a bit of doubt he would a few days back. Emmanuel is an excellent choice too. You can already feel the ‘change’, eh?
What’s really impressed me is how many Republicans have said they are inspired by Obama and wish him well. It’s almost like they sense relief that the dark ages of Bush/Cheney will be swept away, even if they cannot bring themselves to say it. Of course there are some who will still claim that Bush was much maligned, but they are really a very small rump.
Speaking of rump, it’s wonderful to see the GOP eating itself, and who better to throw under the bus first than Minnie Moose? Stories of her buying spree are seeping out, and her ignorance of the world and her personal grasping ambition. All stuff that was plainly apparent but the campaign tried to hide.
Not any more!
And Alaska? Voting for Stevens! LOL
Here’s a state that gouges it’s share of public funds (and then some), still voting for Uncle Ted because hey, he delivered the pork! Ironic isn’t it, since Macca/Palin were essentially promising to shut off that tap? You could say Alaskans weren’t impressed by that argument.
Obama’s electoral vote tally now sits at 364 EVs
Missouri is still undecided
And, there’s a chance Obama could pick up one electoral vote from Nebraska – plenty of ballots still to count.
There will definitely be a recount in Minnesotta
Al Franken has cut Norm Coleman’s lead to 300 votes
Sometimes…………. Oh yes just sometimes.
Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.
You’re unlikely to read it put *quite* this way in the Oz, or any other Murdoch controlled outlet for that matter.
But Kos has a fair and balanced summary. 🙂
Of all the news post the November 4 elections the news that Rupert Murdoch is falling on tough times seems proper. The company reported a 30% drop in profits while shares have fallen by up to 12% in todays trading in Europe and a drop of 22% in Australia.
Clearly firstdogonthemoon is angling for the job of firstdoginthewhitehouse. 🙂
153 Gaffy, that was essentially the joke that Colbert’s black guest made last night…time for the black guy to come and clean up whitey’s mess. It sure cracked up Colbert! Oh, and the guest (who’s name escapes me for the moment) had been on the rallies with MLK, had his car torched and rolled into the water in Chicago, and sure seen some racism in his time.
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That was Andrew Jackson Kirri.
LOL
Loved The Word – Change bit.
Last night we elected a man named Barack Hussein Obama. What part of that doesn’t scare you?
Answer: The not George Bush part.
Peter Hartcher does a nice take on the Rovian folly:
I suppose, at a stretch, one could even say bin Laden made a contribution to this destruction of the GOP too. If Bush had not over-reacted to 911 by invading Iraq on non-existant WMD, who knows how things would have turned out?
Whoops that would be Andrew Young. 😳
Yeah, thanks Paddy. It was a good show, and I just love the way Colbert maintains his faux rightwing persona through it all.
And today’s SMH cartoon makes the same point, a little more bluntly perhaps:
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It certainly was a great show Kirri.
He has a great team of writers and a delivery to match.
Plus, he’s the ultimate American hero, for that immortal night in 2006.
When he delivered the best, most courageous and funniest smackdown to the idiot in chief at the Whitehouse press corp dinner.
BTW. Now that you’ve got your bandwith back. 🙂
If you’ve not seen the writers strike episode mentioned by KatieLou @ 103 it’s really worth the d/l.
Absolutely classic.
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I guess everyone nose don’t they!
Paddy
That episode was a real insight into the background of Colbert (I saw it at the time), and really made me appreciate where he’d come from.
The imbecile should have a telephone hook up with “Tip” to gain an insight on how to write a best seller!
Publishers are falling over each other in the race to tell the imbecile to get fucked about his memoirs.LOL
In less than three months, President-elect Barack Obama will take office and the Bush administration will belong to history. With the president reportedly interested in writing about his White House years, publishers have a suggestion:
Take your time.
“If I were advising President Bush, given how the public feels about him right now, I think patience would probably be something that I would encourage,” says Paul Bogaards, executive director of publicity for Alfred A. Knopf, which in 2004 released Bill Clinton’s million-selling “My Life.”
WASHINGTON — Democracy is the real winner in this week’s presidential election, when American voters made history.
By HELEN THOMAS
The mind-boggling surge that catapulted President-elect Barack Obama to the nation’s top leadership is a shining victory of tolerance over racial prejudice.
Bring on the Puppy and the Rookie
A lovely piece by
MAUREEN DOWD
Some people said that a President Obama would make the White House the Black House. Actually, Barack Obama has the chance to make the White House pristine again.
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Thanks for the pointer.
I’m normally a fan of Greenwald.
But that spray in Salon reeked more of snark against MoDo
than heavyweight journalism.
I mean, FFS.
No one is going to be reading MD for the heavy lifting stuff.
But lots of the heavy lifters themselves, are still in a blissed out daze about what’s happened.
There’s nothing wrong with a bit of “hope” and kumbaya . 🙂
Meanwhile, for those who enjoy a bit of bloodsport, with TV talking heads as the target…….Bless Gore Vidal for this piece of snark via Crikey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2L8iUHZ2sY
Just popped in to check out the lie of the land here. What’s that I can smell….aaaaaahh I love the smell of hubris in the morning, it smells like…..victory 😀
Dio, do you know what you can smell? Ferny has been farting hubris for a while now, and it’s gotten quite acute in the last few days. What do you prescribe?
Paddy, I think Greenwald’s point is valid, he’s just using MoDo as a current example ie the Beltway pundits have conflated Clinton’s peccadilloes with Bush’s crimes, and putting them in the same paragraph (let alone the same page) just helps to gloss over the latter’s egregious acts.
He’s completely right of course, but it’s so ubiquitous it’s easy to miss.
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She can’t, even for a day, let go of the bone, the last vestiges of the corpse of the neoconservative’s cultural war. Without stepping aside for a moment to let us soak up the magnitude of this event, she’s right in there, deriding the ‘affirmative action’ of the voters who put in a ‘black man’. What? They voted him in BECAUSE he was black?
What twaddle, they voted him in because he was far and away the BEST candidate and voters said so. In droves.
What a comic act to claim it’s a bit of ‘affirmative action’. She’s a tasteless joke, and getting more tawdry by the week.
KR
I think Ferny could do with a dose of Ron and Adam brand humble pie. Adam has been very gracious. Ron, not so much. I’m still having to explain to him that Billary didn’t win the popular vote.
We do have some shock news though. Ron won the tipping competition with 364 EV, only 1 off the 365. He’s been very modest about it so far which is more than I can say for William who has been panning us for his unerringly accurate prediction yet again (he only missed MO).
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Check the predictions thread here 🙂
Most of us were pretty close.
174 paddy Hmm, tidal wave. We predicted that ages ago. BBC need to get with it. 😈
Does William mention us by name?
For almost every day since Barack Obama began his presidential bid, Robert Gibbs has literally stood at his side, traveling as one of a core group of top aides who kept the Illinois senator company and his candidacy on track.
So it came as little surprise Thursday that the president-elect was preparing to tap Gibbs as his press secretary, a job that installs him as the public face of the administration, its conduit to the media and — as he has been from the start — protector of the Obama brand.
Despite Barack Obama being declared the winner of Minnesota’s 10 electoral votes as soon as polls closed, the 3-way U.S. Senate Race between Al Franken (DFL), incumbent Senator Norm Coleman (R) and former Senator Dean Barkley (IP) was undecided late into the night.
What’s more. This isn’t just for any old senator. This is for the comedy vote.
Go Al Franken!!!!
Yes, Gaffy, Leunig is as good as Vasco Pajama when he gets all his ducks lined up.
Kirri, great to see you in such rollicking form!
Dio, I’m sure Mr. Grover can defend himself admirably but arn’t you being just a tad harsh? A bit of hullabaloo never hurt no one. Those boys over there were very rude to him (others too) and by omission, they remain recalcitrant. Mr. Grover has made all the big calls correctly in this campaign(the bastard got my plonk on the HRC drop out date) and way ahead of the zeitgeist. He’s earned his right to hoot ‘n’ holler.
Tomorrow we are all dust, Diogs.
Cowards will flinch and traitors will sneer, but that belief in Obama is not the hope that he’s some secret socialist santa, about to pull off the mask and make Bill Ayers his Secretary of Education (though it would be a great pick). The belief is that he’s someone who has been through the left of the 80s and 90s and come to some conclusions about what is possible in twenty-first century America — not in terms of simple centrism or compromise, but in terms of a dynamic combination of the radical and conservative, the prudent and the audacious.
probably need to subscribe or take out a 3 week trial
That’s why the inter-gods created zillions of free email accounts 😉
EC
I didn’t mean it as a criticism! I’ve been hubricating all over the place. I don’t think I’ve ever been as smug, self-satisfied or obnoxious as I’ve been in the last two days and that’s really saying something.
After weeks of waiting, the local library has finally granted my request and produced “Deer hunting with Jesus”.
Imagine my delight, to discover another Joe.
This time, it’s one with a functioning brain, “Joe the writer”. 🙂
Even better, there’s a nice clip of him discussing Obama and the election. (pre 4th Nov.)
(MINNEAPOLIS) One Senate candidate says the voters have spoken. The other says the electorate still needs to be heard.
In the end, experts say, it could be the courts or even the Senate that speaks the loudest on Minnesota’s unsettled Senate race.
While the race is headed for an automatic recount, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and Democratic challenger Al Franken have other options to alter the outcome.
And some interesting speculation from the Guardian… could the Governator himself be offered a spot in Obama’s administration??
He’s been a body-builder, a movie star and leader of the most populous state in the US. But could Arnold Schwarzenegger, now nearing the end of his days as California’s governor, be offered a place at Barack Obama’s side in Washington?
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Probably,
He married a Kennedy did he not.
Ted Kennedy probably arranged it.
Nothing surprises in the good ole USA.
I think I need a retrospective thread of the great moments for President-elect Obama (and the less than grand moments for McGrumpy, Barbie Carabou, Adam’s sure-fire winner and just about any embarrassing prognostications from your “favourite” right-wing tool (god there are so many of them on the local scene – what sort of jungle juice have Albretson and Shanahan being drinking that’s reduced there drivel to the level of David Barnett’s waste-of-space column in “The Canberra Times” – and that’s something not easy to attain because he usually makes the former two tossers quite reasonable (wow)!
Arnie would be a great choice for Environment. Talk about wedging the right…..good for policy and great for the politics.
I have a question “Did he realise that he was such a complete tool that the only way lots of books would be written about him would be if he stuffed things up completely, ignored the rule of law and came across as someone who was inarticulate. What a way to create an historical legacy – think Nixon but he was smarter.
Politics 102
Who was the more evil US executive office holder, Nixon or Cheyney?
SNL’s send-up on The View, and especially that dumb blond Republican Elisabeth Hasselbeck (god she makes my skin crawl).
The right wing religious nut bags are looking for some air time.
Time their churches were paying proper taxes.
Westboro Baptist Church will Picket Obama’s Grandmothers Funeral
Despicable people at the Westboro Baptist Church are planning to picket Barack Obama’s recently deceased grandmothers funeral. These people are disgusting human beings.
Unfortunately the “religous” Christians are replete with those who perform uncharitable and un-Christian actions. (The Rude Pundit nailed it with his line that that “Just want to show Jesus how much “love” is in there hate”.
The Fundamentalists of all religions are Nazis. Let’s call them as that – always! They want to conduct a Holocaust among non-believers. What Fuckwits.
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Looks like a run off for the senate in Georgia. If Martin can get a good share of Buckleys votes in the run offs and get those that had their vote stolen back on the roll he will be in.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Pits-Georgia-s-GOP-Sw-by-Greg-Palast-081105-676.html
Guy Rundle in today’s Crikey has written an ode to joy from one who walked in the streets of Washington on election night. It’s an inspired, fantastic piece.
It’s like a global tsunami from the epicentre of America’s heart, and we’ve all felt it, whether you stood in the streets of Washington or watched it on the other side of the world. I still can’t quite comprehend the magnitude of this seismic event, which will be sending out aftershocks for years, decades, into the future.
What a moment, and what a year we’ve all witnessed. It’s been a joy to be alive and share it with all of you.
Just watched the one hour election night thingo with Jon Stewart and Colbert. Really moving to see them both trying to hold back their tears. I don’t know if anyone else caught the best Colbert episode ever early this year, but Colbert’s father took a stand for black rights in the company he worked for, and was later killed in a plane crash, along with 2 of Colbert’s brothers, when Colbert was a boy. In that episode Colbert interviewed a black man who had worked with Colbert’s father to end a strike by black workers (nurses, I think?) – his father negotiated for equal pay for everyone. The episode ended with Colbert joining with a African American choir singing “Let my People Go”. It was amazing. That episode made me *heart* Colbert. If anyone wants to watch the episode, this link has all the videos.
http://www.nofactzone.net/?p=3025
Also moving to see Colin Powell tear up during a CNN interview after the announcement.
For The West Wing tragics amongst us, I saw on CNN that the character of Josh Lyman was modelled on Rahm Emanuel, who is the favourite for Obama’s Chief of Staff.
A shout out to Jen – but I’m a bit embarrassed you don’t seem to be hungover like me. I guess I was a bit of a slosh yesterday! I see Obama took the day off today. We know what’s been going down today, don’t we. 😉
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Michelles drawers for sure.
😳
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They’ve changed the Palin as President website. You MUST visit. :heart:
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
No words.
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Gaffhook
😆
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KatieLou
Stop it KatyLou.
I’ve run out of tissues and that one just snuck up
and ambushed me. 🙂
KatieLou – just went to the Palin site…*more tears*
I sat on a plane today with a woman who made it clear that she thought climate change was a lot of crap becaue there ws so much rain last night, and that kids misbehave because their parents are “not like us” and so on. But then..she asked me if I had watched the election, and she started to cry!!!
She said she was so moved to see a black man become POTUS and to see the world change.
Go figure. But it was great to see a conservative person be so moved.
As we have all said on occasion – this is so much bigger than politics.
Kirri R
I’ve said it before but here I go anyway. I would love to see a post election wrap-up thread by you, for many many reasons, any chance that might happen?
The politics of hope is powerful, particularly in parlous times. FDR managed to energise the US in 1933 but its arguable that it took economic imperatives WWII to put country back into “full” employment.
Barak Obama faces daunting tasks, thanks to the Idiot, but he has something that I have seen in few in public life – grace, particularly under pressure (think the brilliant, wonderful, moving and uplifting “Race” speach”). To me it is that quality, together with a formidable questioning intellect that wants people to tell him what they see as unpleasant truths, that gives him a shot at reinvigorating the US to try and attain excellence in cultural, financial, industrial and (particularly) educational matters.
When an ignoramus like Bush as POTUS supports the the intolerant and un-Christian (they just want to show “Jesus how much love is in their hate” – Rude Pundit, I think) on “social issues” and un-“Intelligent Design”, then it lessens the human spirit and the things that made the US such a powerhouse of creativity in science and mathematics.
Obama touches the humanist in me. So does the obvious love that radiates from his family, which far more enabling than the hate-filled message of the Rovian Right.
Jon Stewart severely taking the piss out of Chris Wallace The big boss tosser from
FoxFAUX.http://www.thedailyshow.com/index.jhtml
Spammy, I’m just enjoying reading everyone else’s comments so much I really don’t think I could say it any better! We’ve all been touched, like the woman on the plane with Jen, in ways that almost defy comprehension. An election, a winning politician…is that all? How could it be so universally uplifting? Everyone will have their memories of this to hand on to their children, to recount in their old age. It’s truly an amazing thing.
At the top of this page is a speech which says it all, and it blows me away every time I see it.
As I said intimated in the previous thread, the guy on Salon who watched 5 hours of Fox “News” on election night and still managed to write a coherent (and funny) article has more my admiration – he’s one of the mentally toughest person I’ve come across.
FIVE hours. I manage 30 seconds before I’m screaming at the tossers they call “commentators” and “presenters”. All of them are in need of prolonged alien anal probes.
KL. I watched that Colbert/Stewart election night gig in the small hours of this morning and it was really something to see them choking up when they announced Obama had won.
Stewart speechless! What does that take, eh? LOL
And that story about COlbert’s dad really shows where Stephen got his cojones to do that gig at Bush’s press corp dinner…one of the most amazingly audacious bits of satire I’ve ever witnessed.
Both of those guys have been dishing out the physic to pomp and buffoonery throughout this campaign and kept many of us sane.
Update on the current state of play on Votemaster.
http://www.electoral-vote.com
This resolution was passed in Missouri.
Missouri voters made English the official state language.
My question is does this mean American won’t be taught?
A name for the new Whitehouse dog????
How about….
…..Sarah!
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♠ ster
This, I’ll call it, phenomenum (spelling) of his is one of the things that got me. He had absolutely no problem coming out and saying things like, Okay the ford factory is shutting down and jobs are being lost, we wo’nt let that happen. We will retool them and build wind turbines etc etc. Brilliant insight.
We have nothing like that in the shitheap that calls themselves the Australian Parliament. If there is we hear nothing about it.
Anyone comes up with a good idea the opposition shit cans it first opportunity. What a great wasted country we have here with all its inherent mineral wealth and the aussie and migrant ability to work hard for good reward and what do we get. Watch question time for one hour and you see what we get.
We need a Barack Obama here in this country of any colour or gender who will grab the wealth of this country and spread it far and wide with infrastructure etc to create employment and anyone gets in the way just say mind the
steammechanical roller mate, get out of the fucken way or you will get run over.Someone touched on it in an earlier thread about all our good inventive brains heading to China and overseas because all the fuckwit politicians in this country don’t want to know them because they are probably not dropping a brown paper bag at the doors of their electoral offices.
Our system is being taken over by the very nature of what has been the norm under Bush for the last 8 years, The professional lobbyists, whose outrageous fees and costs only inflate the products.
No one can get to their local member any more it has to be done by a lobbyist and lobbyists do not happen to come cheap.
Speaking of professional lobbyists, i read tonight that Burke and
WillsGrill in Western Australia have both been charged with corruption et al and will probably be at the liesure of her Maj soon.http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24613222-952,00.html
I am getting a bit carried away and should cease.
Ferny @ 116
You’re a shocker. 🙂 🙂 (I love the idea and demand that the dog be a “pit bull”)!
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Ferny
And the breed has to be a “Shi-Poo”
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/shihpoo.htm
Fair enough KR, it was worth a shot 😉
Ferny, it could be a pitbull called “Dipstick” (and no, that’s NOT a typo! )
That’s OK Spammy, I’m flattered that you’d ask, really.
Gaffhook @117
A wonderful piece.
Most pollies have short attention spans, alas slightly longer that most obscenely overpaid CEOs. Howard had his eye on power, little else – and now we are fucked as a result. Instead of spending money on “education”, “education” & “education” he gave cash bonuses to pensioners, 1st home buyers, people with kids, people who’d just popped a kid.
And K08 has kept these stupidities in place for short term political advantage. The December payouts will be piss up against the wall. My long term view has always been that few people are comfortable with money. It makes most their servant – either through greed or debt, sometimes both.
For my father and brother, money is water in their hands. My oldest sister can probably quote the serial number of every banknote she has touched, Luckily, I’m in between thanks to advantages in education and temperament – don’t get involved with an investment decision you have doubts about (it took a few shockers to realise this).
Also, fire you “Financial Adviser”, as I have just done. They are fakirs all.
105 KatieLou Red Symons play that on his show. Red wasn’t fair and balanced, he was pro Obama. He also called the election first, for Obama, before the polls had closed.
Great news about Jeff Merkley in Oregon
I’m still hoping for Democrats gains in Alaska, Georgia and Minnesotta – O.K, maybe only 1 out of 3 is a possibility, and it’s true that Saxby Chambliss has engaged in blatant electoral fraud in Georgia.
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Ferny Grover
A name for the new Whitehouse dog????
How about….
…..Sarah!
Nah. They have to get a pregnant…. um…lady dog from an animal shelter.
So it has to be Bristol. 😆
Ducking and running.
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Prog
From everything I’ve read about Saxby Chambliss, it would be delicious khama if he lost on a re-run.
Georgia has been one of the disappointments of the election.
A second chance at rubbing Republican noses in the dirt would be sweet.
How quickly Bush is receding into the past. How ridiculous he now looks; wrong, inept, mute and lost when compared to the new-comer. I’ve been listening to the radio (as is my habit) and can note that already that jubilation at the win is being paired with awe at the problems to be faced. But palpably, so far, peope think there is at least a chance to take on the challenges. I have never felt like this about anything – more than joy, more than relief, more than astonishment. I think it is really just hope. These tired joints of mine and blinky eyes and stumbling memory are imbued with hope; not some naive wishfulness, but belief that the possible and the necessary is also the attainable. Oh the beauty of it all, at last, at long last. Hope. I am still learning.
Good piece on the daily beast about Obi’s first pick for chief of staff.
But I read somewhere else today, he’s reportedly still deciding if he wants to leave Chicago to take the job.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-06/baracks-enforcer/1/
It’s quite interesting to go back to websites from 2006 and read the posts about Obama’s chances.
This is from Electoral-Vote.com, November 29:
That’s a classically ironic line GWV:
“he probably lacks the gravitas people expect in a president.”
…against McCain, or just for a laugh Bush, Obama IS gravitas, and they are but cartoonish figures!
The battle over Proposition 8 in California is set to go to the courts:
Election Law Blog: Prop 8
talk about getting the people’s attention….have a look!
http://obama2008.s3.amazonaws.com/headlines.html
The Rude Pundit is on fire again.
133 blindoptimist Obviously a slow news day. 😈
Amazing, BO.
Here’s an idea to stretch across political, geographic and sporting boundaries. Why doesn’t Jeff Kennett despatch John Platten to the US to give Obama a Hawthorn No 44 jumper?
Lots of parallels there, though Greeny might not agree.
G’Day, Ticsters,
The Kid annoints his Josh and Toby-at-large:
Great plane story, jen. If cracker-persons who cling to their guns and religion in NC, VA and IN can vote in enough numbers to turn those States for The Kid, then the lady you spoke with on board who shed a tear at Obi’s ascendance, is a chance to comprehend the Big Picture climate-wise.
Unfortunately there will always be a core of Climate Change deniers who will refuse to accept the peer-reviewed science on the phenomenon until their two million dollar waterfront properties are only good for two thousand dollar a year oyster leases.
I’ll never forget in Jaws how the mayor of the seaside vacation boom-town refused to issue an official warning about the Rogue Shark because it would interfere with town business activity and besides….. there was no proof!!
As for the girls’ puppy, my suggestion is a Fox Terrier named Studs, after Mr.Terkel, author, raconteur, black mucic appreciator and “known” niggah luvvah from Sweet Home Chicago.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4TgTpP7y2MA
Obama wins North Carolina, Missouri too close too call.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7714181.stm
Thanks for the Rude Pundit tip, Gaffy. Great stuff.
It’s too far away, and she’s too unimportant, for Planet Janet to get a mention, but otherwise she might have made it. I couldn’t get past her lead headline that electing Obama is somehow racist. Elsewhere Rupert has said he’ll be culling staff. Wonder where he’ll start?
Fox News …. Sour Grapes!
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Kirri
Guy Rundle’s complete ode to joy is now available online without reg.
A wonderful piece.
http://www.crikey.com.au/US-Election/20081106-Rundle08-.html#comments
Obama only has to do a half way decent job to wipe the board in two years time. Anything will look good, after the last eight years.
The Democrats will have learnt a lot after what happened to Clinton’s first two years.
Axelrod, Emanuel to Obama White House; Gibbs, Jarrett to Play Key Roles.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2008/11/axelrod-emanuel.html
Obama Will Meet Press Tomorrow
President elect Obama will hold his first press conference on Friday.
The press will play an important part in allaying some peoples fears, and improving confidence. Getting the press on side makes your job a whole lot easier.
Guess what the most popular name for newborns in Kenya is at the moment?
Obama Will Meet Press Tomorrow.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15364.html
I was expecting an extra boost to Obama from the half hour infomercial, which seemed to maintain the lead rather than enhance it. But all in all it was a very good campaign. Can’t be too picky.
Apart from Georgia there doesn’t seem to be much reporting of voter fraud. This would be one area the Democrats would improve/fix.
Here is a theory. The USA have never experienced anything like socialism. Especially the southern states. Introducing universal health care, fixing the housing problem and a few other things might be enough taste for them to say what’s the fuss about? This is good stuff. We want more. This is after decades of being demonised.
Ecky, it’s good news to see that Axelrod has gone to the WH, since there was a bit of doubt he would a few days back. Emmanuel is an excellent choice too. You can already feel the ‘change’, eh?
What’s really impressed me is how many Republicans have said they are inspired by Obama and wish him well. It’s almost like they sense relief that the dark ages of Bush/Cheney will be swept away, even if they cannot bring themselves to say it. Of course there are some who will still claim that Bush was much maligned, but they are really a very small rump.
Speaking of rump, it’s wonderful to see the GOP eating itself, and who better to throw under the bus first than Minnie Moose? Stories of her buying spree are seeping out, and her ignorance of the world and her personal grasping ambition. All stuff that was plainly apparent but the campaign tried to hide.
Not any more!
And Alaska? Voting for Stevens! LOL
Here’s a state that gouges it’s share of public funds (and then some), still voting for Uncle Ted because hey, he delivered the pork! Ironic isn’t it, since Macca/Palin were essentially promising to shut off that tap? You could say Alaskans weren’t impressed by that argument.
Obama’s electoral vote tally now sits at 364 EVs
Missouri is still undecided
And, there’s a chance Obama could pick up one electoral vote from Nebraska – plenty of ballots still to count.
There will definitely be a recount in Minnesotta
Al Franken has cut Norm Coleman’s lead to 300 votes
Guys, it looks like Obama’s gonna win NE-2!
So that now means 365 EVs!
EC
Even some of our Toonists get it
http://www.theage.com.au/cartoons/
Another name for the dog could be “stains”
Would not like to be calling for it to come! 😈
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Gaffy
Classic 🙂
Sometimes…………. Oh yes just sometimes.
Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.
You’re unlikely to read it put *quite* this way in the Oz, or any other Murdoch controlled outlet for that matter.
But Kos has a fair and balanced summary. 🙂
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/6/91832/5812/422/655545
For those ticsters who might have missed it.
http://www.crikey.com.au/The-Official-Crikey-Electoral-College-o-meter.html
Clearly firstdogonthemoon is angling for the job of firstdoginthewhitehouse. 🙂
153 Gaffy, that was essentially the joke that Colbert’s black guest made last night…time for the black guy to come and clean up whitey’s mess. It sure cracked up Colbert! Oh, and the guest (who’s name escapes me for the moment) had been on the rallies with MLK, had his car torched and rolled into the water in Chicago, and sure seen some racism in his time.
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That was Andrew Jackson Kirri.
LOL
Loved The Word – Change bit.
Peter Hartcher does a nice take on the Rovian folly:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/peter-hartcher/spin-fantasies-eventually-crash/2008/11/06/1225561036750.html
…that eventually gave us Obama.
I suppose, at a stretch, one could even say bin Laden made a contribution to this destruction of the GOP too. If Bush had not over-reacted to 911 by invading Iraq on non-existant WMD, who knows how things would have turned out?
Whoops that would be Andrew Young. 😳
Yeah, thanks Paddy. It was a good show, and I just love the way Colbert maintains his faux rightwing persona through it all.
And today’s SMH cartoon makes the same point, a little more bluntly perhaps:
http://www.smh.com.au/cartoons/
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It certainly was a great show Kirri.
He has a great team of writers and a delivery to match.
Plus, he’s the ultimate American hero, for that immortal night in 2006.
When he delivered the best, most courageous and funniest smackdown to the idiot in chief at the Whitehouse press corp dinner.
BTW. Now that you’ve got your bandwith back. 🙂
If you’ve not seen the writers strike episode mentioned by KatieLou @ 103 it’s really worth the d/l.
Absolutely classic.
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Kirri
I guess everyone nose don’t they!
Paddy
That episode was a real insight into the background of Colbert (I saw it at the time), and really made me appreciate where he’d come from.
The imbecile should have a telephone hook up with “Tip” to gain an insight on how to write a best seller!
Publishers are falling over each other in the race to tell the imbecile to get fucked about his memoirs.LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/bushs-memoir-publishers-s_n_141809.html
WASHINGTON — Democracy is the real winner in this week’s presidential election, when American voters made history.
By HELEN THOMAS
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/386490_thomasonline06.html
Bring on the Puppy and the Rookie
A lovely piece by
MAUREEN DOWD
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/opinion/06dowd.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
MN Senate Race Update:
Al Franken is now only 236 votes behind Norm Coleman, he’s making up ground fast! This one is going to a recount in December.
From the ‘These People Are F**ken Stupid’ Category:
People actually thought the ‘holograms’ on CNN’s coverage of election night were real! Seriously!
CNN’s ‘holograms’ just smoke and mirrors
Paddy, read Greenwald in Salon about that MoDo piece…it’s a very different slant.
The nasty Janet is at it again, have a look what Trevor Cook has to say about her latest article. He includes a link to the article in the Australian.
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/trevorcook/2008/11/06/janet-albrechtsen-and-the-bitter-end
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Kirri
Thanks for the pointer.
I’m normally a fan of Greenwald.
But that spray in Salon reeked more of snark against MoDo
than heavyweight journalism.
I mean, FFS.
No one is going to be reading MD for the heavy lifting stuff.
But lots of the heavy lifters themselves, are still in a blissed out daze about what’s happened.
There’s nothing wrong with a bit of “hope” and kumbaya . 🙂
Meanwhile, for those who enjoy a bit of bloodsport, with TV talking heads as the target…….Bless Gore Vidal for this piece of snark via Crikey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2L8iUHZ2sY
Just popped in to check out the lie of the land here. What’s that I can smell….aaaaaahh I love the smell of hubris in the morning, it smells like…..victory 😀
Dio, do you know what you can smell? Ferny has been farting hubris for a while now, and it’s gotten quite acute in the last few days. What do you prescribe?
Paddy, I think Greenwald’s point is valid, he’s just using MoDo as a current example ie the Beltway pundits have conflated Clinton’s peccadilloes with Bush’s crimes, and putting them in the same paragraph (let alone the same page) just helps to gloss over the latter’s egregious acts.
He’s completely right of course, but it’s so ubiquitous it’s easy to miss.
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kerneels
She can’t, even for a day, let go of the bone, the last vestiges of the corpse of the neoconservative’s cultural war. Without stepping aside for a moment to let us soak up the magnitude of this event, she’s right in there, deriding the ‘affirmative action’ of the voters who put in a ‘black man’. What? They voted him in BECAUSE he was black?
What twaddle, they voted him in because he was far and away the BEST candidate and voters said so. In droves.
What a comic act to claim it’s a bit of ‘affirmative action’. She’s a tasteless joke, and getting more tawdry by the week.
KR
I think Ferny could do with a dose of Ron and Adam brand humble pie. Adam has been very gracious. Ron, not so much. I’m still having to explain to him that Billary didn’t win the popular vote.
We do have some shock news though. Ron won the tipping competition with 364 EV, only 1 off the 365. He’s been very modest about it so far which is more than I can say for William who has been panning us for his unerringly accurate prediction yet again (he only missed MO).
179 – Diogenes
Check the predictions thread here 🙂
Most of us were pretty close.
174 paddy Hmm, tidal wave. We predicted that ages ago. BBC need to get with it. 😈
Does William mention us by name?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15385.html
Michael Moore on the election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-KawFvrcw4
Obama in a chance for two more senate seats.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/06/schneider.uncalled.senate.races.cnn
Where Things Stand in the MN-Senate Race
With lots more updates at Kos.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/6/20279/1127/736/656240
Thank God for a nice, juicy, long running saga to stir the hearts of poll addicts everywhere.
What’s more. This isn’t just for any old senator. This is for the comedy vote.
Go Al Franken!!!!
Yes, Gaffy, Leunig is as good as Vasco Pajama when he gets all his ducks lined up.
Kirri, great to see you in such rollicking form!
Dio, I’m sure Mr. Grover can defend himself admirably but arn’t you being just a tad harsh? A bit of hullabaloo never hurt no one. Those boys over there were very rude to him (others too) and by omission, they remain recalcitrant. Mr. Grover has made all the big calls correctly in this campaign(the bastard got my plonk on the HRC drop out date) and way ahead of the zeitgeist. He’s earned his right to hoot ‘n’ holler.
Tomorrow we are all dust, Diogs.
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62410
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62418
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62432
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62348
This, is worth repeating…
Rundle08: Sailing into the harbour of grace
http://www.crikey.com.au/US-Election/20081107-Rundle08-.html
probably need to subscribe or take out a 3 week trial
That’s why the inter-gods created zillions of free email accounts 😉
EC
I didn’t mean it as a criticism! I’ve been hubricating all over the place. I don’t think I’ve ever been as smug, self-satisfied or obnoxious as I’ve been in the last two days and that’s really saying something.
After weeks of waiting, the local library has finally granted my request and produced “Deer hunting with Jesus”.
Imagine my delight, to discover another Joe.
This time, it’s one with a functioning brain, “Joe the writer”. 🙂
Even better, there’s a nice clip of him discussing Obama and the election. (pre 4th Nov.)
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2008/10/joe-discusses-the-election-and-poor-whites.html
Newsweek article on why the MN-Senate count could end up being resolved *within* the Senate itself:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/167596/page/1
And some interesting speculation from the Guardian… could the Governator himself be offered a spot in Obama’s administration??
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/07/barack-obama-arnold-schwarzenegger
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Froggy
Probably,
He married a Kennedy did he not.
Ted Kennedy probably arranged it.
Nothing surprises in the good ole USA.
Fair enough, Dio, party time all round!
🙂
Wed Nov 5:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/patoliphant;_ylt=AvWmtJKk2Urr_W3aVuHXrJwDwLAF
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/20081106_not_since_kennedy/
Fri Nov 7:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/bensargent;_ylt=AoOCKzsZepGnvAzLO4xoMUI0vTYC
Fri Nov 7:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/tomtoles;_ylt=Anty6ZqmAvmZbrRqQ76O.Fk0vTYC
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62424
I’m having withdrawal symptoms.
I think I need a retrospective thread of the great moments for President-elect Obama (and the less than grand moments for McGrumpy, Barbie Carabou, Adam’s sure-fire winner and just about any embarrassing prognostications from your “favourite” right-wing tool (god there are so many of them on the local scene – what sort of jungle juice have Albretson and Shanahan being drinking that’s reduced there drivel to the level of David Barnett’s waste-of-space column in “The Canberra Times” – and that’s something not easy to attain because he usually makes the former two tossers quite reasonable (wow)!
Arnie would be a great choice for Environment. Talk about wedging the right…..good for policy and great for the politics.
I’ve just been reading a piece on the idiot child
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/11/a-man-out-of-ti.html#comments
I have a question “Did he realise that he was such a complete tool that the only way lots of books would be written about him would be if he stuffed things up completely, ignored the rule of law and came across as someone who was inarticulate. What a way to create an historical legacy – think Nixon but he was smarter.
Politics 102
Who was the more evil US executive office holder, Nixon or Cheyney?
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/the-view/805541/
SNL’s send-up on The View, and especially that dumb blond Republican Elisabeth Hasselbeck (god she makes my skin crawl).
The right wing religious nut bags are looking for some air time.
Time their churches were paying proper taxes.
Westboro Baptist Church will Picket Obama’s Grandmothers Funeral
http://www.bowlofserial.com/2008/11/06/westboro-baptist-church-will-picket-obamas-grandmothers-funeral/
Unfortunately the “religous” Christians are replete with those who perform uncharitable and un-Christian actions. (The Rude Pundit nailed it with his line that that “Just want to show Jesus how much “love” is in there hate”.
The Fundamentalists of all religions are Nazis. Let’s call them as that – always! They want to conduct a Holocaust among non-believers. What Fuckwits.