Chris, Good Morning Sir!
Senate Elections? I think they are counting more votes in Alaska today, so hopefully some updates later, Mark Begich for the Democrats is currently 814 votes ahead of Ted Stevens.
Minnesotta – the recount commences next month. The expectation is that if undervotes are counted, Al Franken will win.
Keith Obermann says Obama has offered Hillary the Secretary Of State job, she is taking some time to decide whether or not to accept it.
Brussels turns regulatory eye on rating agencies.
The European Commission has unveiled a proposal to regulate credit rating agencies, boasting the blueprint goes further than legislation anywhere else in the world in its attempt to prevent future turbulence based on false ratings of various market actors.
“These very exciting rules are necessary to restore the confidence of the market in the ratings business in the European Union,” said EU internal market commissioner Charlie McCreevy when presenting the document to journalists on Wednesday (12 November).
EU commission chief pleads for ‘fundamental’ review of financial system.
Commission president José Manuel Barroso says this weekend’s G20 summit in Washington offers a “unique” opportunity for a “deep-seated” reform of the banking sector.
The Portuguese official told this website that he hoped the meeting of the Group of 20 industrialised and emerging economies would launch a “fundamental” review of the global financial system.
Barroso said, “It is a very important that there is a revision, not just of the banking sector but of other related issues such as what I call global prosperity, that is, efforts to promote prosperity everywhere.”
The Imbecile’s Progress:
After reading three Shakespeares and a Camus at a tender age
The young Imbecile (imbecile minor), having completing his studies at Harvard Business College
Had a mind to travel; so Poppy bought him some snake-skin caligulas
And sent him on his way…………
Kennebunkport, Crawford, D.C., Crawford, Paraguay.
Some, including his family, say that it was his feet that failed him
But everybody knows that it was his character. http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62771
———————————-
“Geez, I’ve gone up in the world.”
Like a rat up a drain-pipe, right, Chris?
Vote tally trend favors Begich for Senate.
More than half the absentee and questioned ballots still to be counted in Alaska’s U.S. Senate race come from areas of the state that backed Democrat Mark Begich on Election Day.
That’s not a good sign for Republican Sen. Ted Stevens as he seeks to overcome Begich’s 814-vote lead when counting resumes today of just over 41,000 remaining ballots. A Daily News analysis, based on data provided by the state Division of Elections, shows that 56 percent of those ballots come from districts that favored Begich on Nov. 4.
EBay Sites Will Ban Sales of Tickets to Obama’s Swearing-In.
If you are one of the few to land a ticket to the swearing-in of President-elect Barack Obama, don’t think about hawking it on eBay.
The online auction site is banning such postings after a U.S. senator said she was crafting a bill to make the sales a federal crime.
The 240,000 or so tickets, which will be available for free, have not been distributed by members of Congress or the yet-to-be created presidential inaugural committee. But that did not stop people from offering them on eBay and other Web sites, promising they would secure the tickets if they were paid up to $40,000 apiece.
How bad off is the Republican Party right now? Ask Newt Gingrich.
“The Republican Party right now is like a midsize college team trying to play in the Superbowl,” Gingrich told me Wednesday. “It is pretty hard to say our losses were because of John McCain’s campaign. McCain performed way above plausibility compared to where the Republican president was in the polls. We have to look honestly at what went wrong.”
Gingrich, Republican speaker of the House from 1995 to 1999, declined say who he wanted as the next chairman of the party. He said his main concern was the rise of what he called the “modern left,” which just a few years ago was thought to be moribund in this country but now looks alive and kicking.
From the same article as 610.
This gives me great optimism, for the long term benefit of the Democrats.
Greg Mueller, a political consultant who specializes in conservative candidates, said that the next chairman of the party must be an “ideological conservative.”
“We need full-throttle conservatism,” Mueller said. “We have governed as lighter versions of liberal Democrats. We went to Washington to be fiscal conservatives and we became profligate spenders and big-government bureaucrats.”
Mueller went on: “It is very unpopular to be a Republican right now, but it is very popular to be a conservative. The conservative brand is the most popular brand in the country, but we didn’t run as conservatives.”
Alaska elections officials will resume counting absentee ballots on Friday in the contest that will determine whether Republican Ted Stevens returns to the Senate.
Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, the Democratic challenger, held an 814-vote lead after a round of ballot-counting on Wednesday. But his campaign staff, which has been monitoring the vote count, estimated that 40,000 ballots remained to be counted. Some of those were absentee ballots and some were ballots that had been questioned by judges on Election Night and set aside for later review.
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Prog
I think Al Giordano has some fairly sane observations about the current Hilary for SOS frenzy.
The whole thing is a media freak show being served up by members of the Clinton factions in the Democratic party and obliged by a national media (some of them also Clinton noisemakers) in search of a story.
Giordana sums it up perfectly. The Clinton spin machine has been sickening in its intensity since Obama’s crowning…..And they are spinning pure BS. “Anonymous sources” are spruiking left, right and centre….hello Lanny and co lol.
One thing we should know about Obama is that he runs a tighter ship than the Clintons could ever have imagined….or wanted.
NoDrama V MeloDrama
The Politico website is hilarious to read. It is nothing more than a Clinton/ DLC faction dumping ground of BS, rumours and agenda.
IMO Hillary will “maybe” get a domestic post in the Administration, if not she will stay in the Senate.
In the meantime, the Whole Clinton Machine will do everything in its remaining power to undermine the Obama Administration.
Make no mistake, she has her eyes on 2012. That is her sole purpose. If you doubt this , as Giordano points out and i have mentioned previously, you only have to get through your head that Hillary was actively thinking about the Obama assasination nightmare as a way that could save her dream.
I’ve just been having a look at the status of the senate for 2010. There appears to be about 13 Republicans within striking distance.
There is a long time to go yet, but it is interesting to get the layout of the land. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2010
Democrats do not reach 60 Senate seats? Wait until 2010!
With the calling of the Oregon seat for Jeff Merkley, the Democratic Party looks set for 55 seats in the United States Senate. Along with the two independent seats including Joe Lieberman, that puts the Democratic caucus at 57 seats. All of the seats that were considered to be cinches, Democrats won while the marginal pickups like Minnesota stayed with the incumbent but could potentially switch pending recounts or re-votes. 60 seats to get to that filibuster proof majority was considered to be a long shot in any event but it can be quite attainable in 2010.
Less than two weeks before Election Day, the chief strategist behind a ballot measure outlawing same-sex marriage in California called an emergency meeting here.
“We’re going to lose this campaign if we don’t get more money,” the strategist, Frank Schubert, recalled telling leaders of Protect Marriage, the main group behind the ban.
The poor old Fence did not even make it into the First Fifteen when the new GOP leaders team was announced at the end of the Nutbags Governors conference today. Ha Ha Ha
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford was voted RGA chairman, taking over the top job from Texas Gov. Rick Perry who will now serve as finance chairman. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour is vice-chairman, while Florida Gov. Charlie Crist will serve as chair for the annual RGA gala, and Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue will head up the recruitment effort.
Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle, Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas, and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty will also sit on the RGA’s executive committee.
“Republican Governors are natural leaders who will find solutions to our nation’s challenges and bring back the Party,” Sanford said in a statement.
Not on the list? Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who also attended the Miami meeting.
While Monsanto is trying to fool anyone who wants to listen about the good qualities of their GM crops in Australia, and our dumb fucken politicians and farmers will go for it, their bullshit style has been noted for what it is:
Media has devoted attention to the Andrew Weidermann’s GM trials in Australia but has failed to notice that the trials had been manipulated in a series of ways to make the GM-canola look as though it outperformed normal canola.
Julie Newman, reporting on these trials, asks “Why has there been so much promotion of GM trials but little attention to detail?”
What details were overlooked? “The non-GM varieties could not perform to their full potential because standard weed control was avoided.”
And while our pollies and farmers are trying to catch up with reality:
Austrian Government Study Confirms Genetically Modified (GM) Crops
Threaten Human Fertility and Health Safety :
A long-term feeding study commissioned by the Austrian Agency for Health and Food Safety, managed by the Austrian Federal Ministry of Health, Family and Youth, and carried out by Veterinary University Vienna, confirms genetically modified (GM) corn seriously affects reproductive health in mice. Non-GMO advocates, who have warned about this infertility link along with other health risks, now seek an immediate ban of all GM foods and GM crops to protect the health of humankind and the fertility of women around the world.
No doubt our farmers will be weighing up the gold mine from GM crops and fuck everone else.
I hope BO grabs Monsanto by the scruff of the neck and reads them their new horrorscope!
EC my post is ready.
Quite a good article by Michael Moore.
Pinch Me …a message from Michael Moore
Friends,
Who among us is not at a loss for words? Tears pour out. Tears of joy. Tears of relief. A stunning, whopping landslide of hope in a time of deep despair.
Fuck ya Chris i was just warming up!LOL
Better keep me eye on things hey. Dont want to be postin away to meself like some one else. LOL
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Gaffy
Oh for a properly run A.B friggin C to do a serious story on Monsanto and the Canola scam on Landline, or 4 corners.
Or (God forbid) how about CSIRO if did some independent testing.
Instead of crawling around with their noses stuck up various major corporation’s bums.
I still retch when I remember Gus Nossal spouting forth on the benifits of GM.
Grrr!! The whole sorry business makes me mad enough to spit. 🙁
628
Gaffy
Not to worry, we can just chat amongst ourselves. 🙂
630
Yeah Paddy i guess if there are two of us chatting we may not have to be classified.
629
Paddy
I have spent lots of hours on the intertubes reading about What a lovely good corporate citizen Monsanto is. Particularly when that fine upstanding Mr Rumsfeld became their CEO after the repugs lost power way back and he had to find a new job. What a web was weaved by him and Monsanto to get aspartame through the FDA and how the shennanigans were stretched out to so that they were able to invoke the statute of limitations. Mongrels all.
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Gaffy
Well that’s a little fact I’d not heard before.
Rummy sounds like the perfect CEO for such a fine upstanding corporation.
BTW
I’ve always enjoyed the way Monsanto are regarded in India.
😆
Trying to patent Basmarti rice didn’t exactly go down too well with the Indians.
They (the Indians) have a seriously fine record when it comes to shafting US multinationals.
Hell, when you can tell Coke to go and get fucked for a decade or so…………and then only let them back in when they play by your rules. You must be doing something right. 🙂
Begich lead increases in race for Senate.
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is in grave danger of losing re-election after Mark Begich widened his lead to 1,022 votes Friday.
More than 90 percent of the votes are now counted, and Friday’s count of absentee and questioned ballots could have been Stevens’ best chance to make a comeback.
Georgia’s U.S. Senate Candidates Prepare for Weekend Campaigning.
The Georgia U.S. Senate runoff headed into a full weekend of campaigning Friday and there was an emphasis on the balance of power in Washington.
The contest between Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss and Democratic challenger Jim Martin has grabbed the attention of both state and national leaders.
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Chris B
Go to 607. EC cartoon Fri 14, open it and click on date and go to Thurs 13 and there are a lot more votes for Begich which will put him over the line. If they can get them out safely. LOL
:LOL: LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN. ENJOY THE RIDE. :LOL:
Obama Brings Cyber Sensibility to Office.
The president-elect believes Internet technology should be as thoroughly integrated into federal agencies as it was in his campaign, where the Web was used to communicate, raise money, and get out the vote in a way that was unprecedented in U.S. politics. A large Internet presence boosted Obama’s prodigious fund-raising activities.
Barack Obama’s Internet-fueled campaign has transformed the way Americans choose a president. Now, the president-elect’s administration plans to change the way Americans use technology.
If Obama gets his way, all Americans will have broadband Internet access, whether they live in big cities or remote villages. Online life will be safer, with better defenses against cybercriminals. And there will be greater access to government, with online services to let anyone question members of the president’s Cabinet or track every dime of the federal budget.
“I think it’s not going to happen in the first hundred days, but I think a lot of this can happen in the first term,” said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press, a media reform organization based in Washington, D.C.
636 paddy It’s a fake. There are too many big words there for Sarah.
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Chris
Have you emailed that link to Conroy?
Mornin’ All,
Chris, you’ve got gmail.
We know that history does not repeat, but occasionally likes to rhyme, and the more I read of the Clinton autobiography and compare his presidential victory against Bush the more Obama’s race seems to have strong parallels. In fact you could easily mistake large slabs of Clinton’s speeches in both primary and general campaigns for Obama’s. These are the main Democratic issues, but the similarities of the political landscape and the way the Republicans operated sometimes make me wonder which election I’m reading about.
The parallels are quite uncanny, even allowing for the irony of an incumbent Bush. But consider that both economies were in recession, (although the current one is off the seismograph), the sitting President had waged war in Iraq, Clinton ran on ‘bringing the nation together’ and health care and education, and Clinton’s demeanor was to rise above the personal attacks which the Republicans launched at him. Bush Snr of course ran the argument that Clinton was a liberal lefty who could not ‘keep us safe’ while he could.
Even the way Clinton’s campaign used new technology has parallels, and I keep feeling that Obama is the Clinton we wished Clinton had been! Instead of getting bogged down with gays in the military and a long and dreary investigation of his personal peccadilloes, we all feel certain that Obama will be more sure footed, more steady, and probably more able to deliver on his promises.
641 Gaffhook Good idea. I’ll do it when my thread goes up.
643 Kirribilli Removals There seem to be a pattern of governments learning from the previous governments mistakes, two that I can name off the top of my head are Hawky learning from Gough and Bracks learning from Cain. Second time around they are more cautious and are around for a lot longer.
Obama makes a play for college football playoff.
It’s not exactly at the top of his agenda, but President-elect Barack Obama says there should be a college football playoff to determine a national champion. In fact, he knows exactly what he wants — an eight-team playoff.
CNN survey shows about three-quarters believe Obama will improve economic conditions and calm markets.
A poll released Thursday found that a majority of Americans believe that President-elect Barack Obama can fix the economy.
According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, 76% of Americans said they believe it’s likely that Obama will improve economic conditions.
In addition, 73% of those surveyed said they believe that Obama will bring stability to the financial markets.
651 replies on “A New Dawn”
Any updates on the senate elections?
Chris, Good Morning Sir!
Senate Elections? I think they are counting more votes in Alaska today, so hopefully some updates later, Mark Begich for the Democrats is currently 814 votes ahead of Ted Stevens.
Minnesotta – the recount commences next month. The expectation is that if undervotes are counted, Al Franken will win.
Keith Obermann says Obama has offered Hillary the Secretary Of State job, she is taking some time to decide whether or not to accept it.
Brussels turns regulatory eye on rating agencies.
Obama has to implement something similar in the USA.
http://euobserver.com/9/27094
EU commission chief pleads for ‘fundamental’ review of financial system.
http://www.theparliament.com/latestnews/news-article/newsarticle/eu-commission-chief-pleads-for-fundamental-review-of-financial-system/
602 Progressive Sir? Geez, I’ve gone up in the world. 😈
G’day, Gang.
Terminology:(go one back, click previous)
http://xkcd.com/
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62768
Fri Nov 14
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/jeffdanziger;_ylt=A0WTUcoa9R1JuB8AwwEDwLAF
Tues Nov 13: Mouse-over datebox and left-click once.
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons/jeffdanziger;_ylt=A0WTUf2BmhxJdIAAVQIDwLAF
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62741
Mr. Hanky ~ Realtor
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62768
The Imbecile’s Progress:
After reading three Shakespeares and a Camus at a tender age
The young Imbecile (imbecile minor), having completing his studies at Harvard Business College
Had a mind to travel; so Poppy bought him some snake-skin caligulas
And sent him on his way…………
Kennebunkport, Crawford, D.C., Crawford, Paraguay.
Some, including his family, say that it was his feet that failed him
But everybody knows that it was his character.
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/62771
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“Geez, I’ve gone up in the world.”
Like a rat up a drain-pipe, right, Chris?
Vote tally trend favors Begich for Senate.
http://www.adn.com/elections/senate/story/588675.html
EBay Sites Will Ban Sales of Tickets to Obama’s Swearing-In.
more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111302520.html?sub=AR
Gingrich says GOP is outmatched.
I just feel so upset about this.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15563.html
From the same article as 610.
This gives me great optimism, for the long term benefit of the Democrats.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15563.html
😆
http://www.theage.com.au/world/palins-question-time-leaves-viewers-divided-20081114-67ak.html
Alaska Senate Race on Hold.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002986014
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Prog
I think Al Giordano has some fairly sane observations about the current Hilary for SOS frenzy.
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield
Colbert Nation. He’s in great form as usual.
http://www.colbertnation.com/home
614 Paddy
Giordana sums it up perfectly. The Clinton spin machine has been sickening in its intensity since Obama’s crowning…..And they are spinning pure BS. “Anonymous sources” are spruiking left, right and centre….hello Lanny and co lol.
One thing we should know about Obama is that he runs a tighter ship than the Clintons could ever have imagined….or wanted.
NoDrama V MeloDrama
The Politico website is hilarious to read. It is nothing more than a Clinton/ DLC faction dumping ground of BS, rumours and agenda.
IMO Hillary will “maybe” get a domestic post in the Administration, if not she will stay in the Senate.
In the meantime, the Whole Clinton Machine will do everything in its remaining power to undermine the Obama Administration.
Make no mistake, she has her eyes on 2012. That is her sole purpose. If you doubt this , as Giordano points out and i have mentioned previously, you only have to get through your head that Hillary was actively thinking about the Obama assasination nightmare as a way that could save her dream.
There coming to take me away ha ha!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrra-WkpqeE
By George. Hee hee.
I’ve just been having a look at the status of the senate for 2010. There appears to be about 13 Republicans within striking distance.
There is a long time to go yet, but it is interesting to get the layout of the land.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2010
More on the 2010 senate. I don’t agree with his logic on 2012. He is assuming that the Democrats aren’t going to do that well in power.
http://donklephant.com/2008/11/14/2010-2012-election-prologue/
Democrats do not reach 60 Senate seats? Wait until 2010!
http://brianleon.com/journal/2008/11/06/democrats-do-not-reach-60-senate-seats-wait-until-2010/
And if that’s not enough to wet your appetite.
http://www.politickerky.com/treypollard/2125/cook-political-report-bunning-2010-one-three-toss-ups
Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage.
may need to be registered….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15marriage.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
The poor old Fence did not even make it into the First Fifteen when the new GOP leaders team was announced at the end of the Nutbags Governors conference today. Ha Ha Ha
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/11/14/republican-governors-pick-sanford-as-chairman/
While Monsanto is trying to fool anyone who wants to listen about the good qualities of their GM crops in Australia, and our dumb fucken politicians and farmers will go for it, their bullshit style has been noted for what it is:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/How-to-Rig-a-Monsanto-GM-t-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-081115-787.html
And while our pollies and farmers are trying to catch up with reality:
Austrian Government Study Confirms Genetically Modified (GM) Crops
Threaten Human Fertility and Health Safety :
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/GMFree/MediaCenter/ReleaseAustrianGovernmentStudy/index.cfm
No doubt our farmers will be weighing up the gold mine from GM crops and fuck everone else.
I hope BO grabs Monsanto by the scruff of the neck and reads them their new horrorscope!
EC my post is ready.
Quite a good article by Michael Moore.
http://michaelmoore.com/words/message/print.php?id=240
Fuck ya Chris i was just warming up!LOL
Better keep me eye on things hey. Dont want to be postin away to meself like some one else. LOL
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Gaffy
Oh for a properly run A.B friggin C to do a serious story on Monsanto and the Canola scam on Landline, or 4 corners.
Or (God forbid) how about CSIRO if did some independent testing.
Instead of crawling around with their noses stuck up various major corporation’s bums.
I still retch when I remember Gus Nossal spouting forth on the benifits of GM.
Grrr!! The whole sorry business makes me mad enough to spit. 🙁
628
Gaffy
Not to worry, we can just chat amongst ourselves. 🙂
630
Yeah Paddy i guess if there are two of us chatting we may not have to be classified.
629
Paddy
I have spent lots of hours on the intertubes reading about What a lovely good corporate citizen Monsanto is. Particularly when that fine upstanding Mr Rumsfeld became their CEO after the repugs lost power way back and he had to find a new job. What a web was weaved by him and Monsanto to get aspartame through the FDA and how the shennanigans were stretched out to so that they were able to invoke the statute of limitations. Mongrels all.
632
Gaffy
Well that’s a little fact I’d not heard before.
Rummy sounds like the perfect CEO for such a fine upstanding corporation.
BTW
I’ve always enjoyed the way Monsanto are regarded in India.
😆
Trying to patent Basmarti rice didn’t exactly go down too well with the Indians.
They (the Indians) have a seriously fine record when it comes to shafting US multinationals.
Hell, when you can tell Coke to go and get fucked for a decade or so…………and then only let them back in when they play by your rules. You must be doing something right. 🙂
Begich lead increases in race for Senate.
http://www.adn.com/elections/story/589416.html
Georgia’s U.S. Senate Candidates Prepare for Weekend Campaigning.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7868202&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Sarah explains the first Xmas…
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-christmas1.jpg
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Chris B
Go to 607. EC cartoon Fri 14, open it and click on date and go to Thurs 13 and there are a lot more votes for Begich which will put him over the line. If they can get them out safely. LOL
:LOL: LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN. ENJOY THE RIDE. :LOL:
Obama Brings Cyber Sensibility to Office.
http://www.toptechnews.com/news/Obama-Brings-Cyber-Sensibility/story.xhtml?story_id=0320013Q3J4W&full_skip=1
637 Gaffhook Good one. I hope we don’t need them.
636 paddy It’s a fake. There are too many big words there for Sarah.
638
Chris
Have you emailed that link to Conroy?
Mornin’ All,
Chris, you’ve got gmail.
We know that history does not repeat, but occasionally likes to rhyme, and the more I read of the Clinton autobiography and compare his presidential victory against Bush the more Obama’s race seems to have strong parallels. In fact you could easily mistake large slabs of Clinton’s speeches in both primary and general campaigns for Obama’s. These are the main Democratic issues, but the similarities of the political landscape and the way the Republicans operated sometimes make me wonder which election I’m reading about.
The parallels are quite uncanny, even allowing for the irony of an incumbent Bush. But consider that both economies were in recession, (although the current one is off the seismograph), the sitting President had waged war in Iraq, Clinton ran on ‘bringing the nation together’ and health care and education, and Clinton’s demeanor was to rise above the personal attacks which the Republicans launched at him. Bush Snr of course ran the argument that Clinton was a liberal lefty who could not ‘keep us safe’ while he could.
Even the way Clinton’s campaign used new technology has parallels, and I keep feeling that Obama is the Clinton we wished Clinton had been! Instead of getting bogged down with gays in the military and a long and dreary investigation of his personal peccadilloes, we all feel certain that Obama will be more sure footed, more steady, and probably more able to deliver on his promises.
641 Gaffhook Good idea. I’ll do it when my thread goes up.
643 Kirribilli Removals There seem to be a pattern of governments learning from the previous governments mistakes, two that I can name off the top of my head are Hawky learning from Gough and Bracks learning from Cain. Second time around they are more cautious and are around for a lot longer.
Obama makes a play for college football playoff.
This may not seem like much, but doing something positive like this can increase his popularity especially amongst white males, which was his weakness in the election.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxPX-tiHZTvNT3am9-M2aqrP7ELgD94FKRLG0
New thread up; Chris has cut loose!
Yeah, Kirri, The Kid is a classier and less flawed act that Bubba. More of a doer than a show pony.
Minnesota recount.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/34485189.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
76% say Obama can fix economy – poll
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/13/news/economy/obama_poll/?postversion=2008111316
Whoops! EC we need to tie this one off.
A new thread from Chris B taking on an important and immediate issue in the Australian political landscape.
Censorship