On this subject of carbon trading and suggestions that the government is not doing enough. Well, I’m not convinced. Thing is there is a bunch of legislation already passed that deals with the obligations of organisations to publish data about the energy levels they are consuming, the energy they are producing, and the emissions they are generating as a by-product. That legislation has a significant impact on these bigger companies out there (and ok, it’s a smaller number of companies but it is the industries that matter when we do the numbers). So right now those big industries (including those constitutional companies that we don’t talk about much) are doing the stuff necessary to meet the legislative reporting requirements (and this is both a cost for those organisations and a economic stimulus for those other organisations providing the info-technology to support this).
So if we project out into the future a couple of years from now – we will be seeing the emergence of data coming from out from major industry players. For any one of these players chances are we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in potential liabilities (with or without an ETS). Factor into this equation the emergence of an ETS irrespective of targets (because the target is partially academic if we look at the end-game). What is more important is the putting in place of the mechanisms – because once you have the reporting mechanisms in place then, and only then can you start playing policy with the economic configuration (a.k.a. tweaking taxation dials and whatnot). With those mechanisms in place (and I can’t emphasise enough that the establishment of those reporting mechanisms is what is really important here) you turn a page of the management equation – only then can you actually start to manage the problem – and only then can we start to be responsible – companies (even the big polluters) will start to understand and factor into day to day decisions the economic consequences of operational decisions.
The reduction target does not matter (at least today) – because today – today we are just grappling with the problem of capturing the information about what we are doing. Two years from now and the federal government will start to see numbers that are meaningful (as in the Australian Federal Government will have the initial numbers of the flows of energy and the emissions from individual companies and those constitutional corporations at a level of granularity that will make your head spin). But that time-point is important but it’s not what we need – what we actually need is trend lines. We need a few years to get to the point of understanding the picture of what is happening in Australia. It is from this perspective that I think that less is more – because what Australia does in emissions production is not the issue, what is much more important is what Australia does in establishing the regulatory framework from which we can demonstrate a national comprehension and from that – grounded and concrete actions – based on national facts that are linked to national corporate entities – that implicate national employees – that change union policies – that generate informed local opinion.
Australia is not a global leader on this issue – but the Australian Federal Government is working on fundamentals that are critical for a responsible solution. Targets and levies are just numbers and dials – what is more important is establishing the machinery capable of responding to adjustments, and the machinery capable of returning accurate and reliable feedback on changes.
We are heading in the right direction.
And take a deep breath – because we still have a way to go.
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EC @ 694, he did it all for the nookie!
Happy New Year everyone –
except Tony Abbott. Hope his is crap.
It is no good having the worlds fastest train if there is a puffing billy on board. Train goes nowhere.
Be you a cock or a hen,
All the best for 2010.
Well one thing for sure it is not April 1st.
I couldn’t stand it! I haven’t been near a computer since last year! I was suffering from withdrawal symptoms!
Happy new year everybody!
The clocks wrong on here!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE
Happy New Year everybody!
Well a happy new decade to all you wretched ticsters who have kept me from honest toil for the last 2 years.
Here’s a timely reminder that the TV doesn’t have to be full of boring arseholes, talking about how marvellous the Sydney harbour fireworks are simply the best ever.
Behold something as awful as the Eurovision song contest, from a century far far away……and then weep at what passes for “entertainment” in our current climate.
Oh yes….and lest we forget……Fuck George W Bush, and Tony Blair, and that miserable bogan in the green and gold track suit, who mistook his wife for William Pitt the younger, and who’s greatest dream was to wear the baggy green cap 👿
And so say all of us,Paddy!
Happy New Year, ticsters, and a big thank you for the humour, sanity and toons 🙂
Paddy it still boggles my mind why the Irish call it River dance when they are on a solid stage. If they were dancing on a river…………….????????
Great New Year erryone.
Arianna Calls Out Kudlow For Dow ‘50,000’ Prediction, Urges People To Ditch Bailed Out Banks (VIDEO).
A couple of good video’s here, including how CNBC thinks the Senate will go. They think the Repugs will win 4-5 seats.
It was all George Bush’s fault.
(Everyone has conveniently forgotten about him). Very short memories!
New viral video. Tiger Woods sex video!
Dec 31: Why it is absolutely essential that the NSA surveil 30,000,000 American citizens, that’s 30 million……… for the good of National Security.
That is exactly what what Jen suggested that Danziger one. I did not think you would do it.
The Playing Field
According to the very latest House race ratings, CQ Politics sees the midterm election playing field at 102 seats, of which 70 are currently held by Democrats and 32 are held by Republicans.
For comparison, the Rothenberg Political Report finds 61 competitive House seats in the country, including 47 Democratic seats and 14 Republican seats.
Similarly, the Cook Political Report says Democrats currently have 38 seats listed as Lean or Toss Up while Republicans have just 11 seats in those categories.
We’ll see how smart these guys are!
Turd blossom has ditched his missus or she has probably more than likely ditched him.
Speculation is rife that he can now start the new year with his new lover.
Little bit a toe tappin, boot scootin to welcome in the next round.
Ariana Huffingtons latest effort. Move your money.
Bolivians learn Chinese to boost their trade options. China offers to build Bolivia a satellite and a high speed rail line. It’s amazing what a little bit of lithium does for a country.
Ex-archbishop sentenced in Argentina over sex abuse.
Got one of the bastards at last!
Avatar is getting great reviews via Facebook. I noticed an article somewhere (which I should have posted here) that the right wing media have attacked it. (Not surprising). I will be interested in seeing if people make the connection between Avatar and what the US does in other countries. I will be more interested in finding out what my right wing friends (yes that right, I have some), say about it. Not that I will pre empt them with info about it.
Avatar is a very interesting way to handle the US imperialism issue.
Should be able to come at other major issues from the same angle.
I am wondering what is taking Kevin Rudds broadband so long to get moving. I might ring around a few Liberal offices to see if they can tell me. At least that way, the Liberals might start asking questions about it. This may get things moving. 😈
Not a bad read.
Not the Noughties
gaffy at 716 you’re spot on, that theivin’ bloody Sep toon artist stole Jen’s enhanced codpiece idea! These people know no shame.
Btw, anyone who got off on James Ellroy’s American Tabloid, will dig his latest and last in the trilogy of American top-shelf thugs, fixers and history-changing events from the late fifties to 1974. He writes like “There Will Be Blood” played on the silver screen. Titled, “Blood’s a Rover”, it requires less of a mental effort to access than The Cold Six-Thousand, the second in his trilogy. As a longtime obsessive about AmPol, cinema, history and literature I find his writing riveting. The way Ellroy weaves his narrative, if he were writing about Uncle Sammy and Sepdom in the noughties, we’d have not only intimately been appraised of the pecadillos of the recent whackees in Kabul, hed tell us exactly how all the heroin makes it out of Afghanistan to market to market….
Knicker-Odium: Numero Uno, Bay-Bee, in outsourced, compulsory entertainment!
All Company personal were urged today to go the extra mile to help keep Americans safe from “homegrown” as well as global acts of terrorism.
“Why do they hate us?….because we’re free!!”, a Company talking-head said yesterday in a thousand thoughfully placed grabs on Fox Info-News….
Have no illusions about it, the “under-the-rope” ka-boom in Kabul this week has been a monster blow to Company prestige. Company Strategists are still divided over”The Message” sent by the explosion. No one has yet suggested that that message might possibly be:
“We live here. We can bag you turkeys anytime we want to.”
fyeo; burn after reading
Rachel Maddow destroying dickless Cheneys credibility again.
There are some other good videos there as well.
The first bonfire night was burning the pope.
gaffy@716 – another Lurker on 101 😉
HOW TO SCREW BIG BANKS LEGIT: sorry, Mr. Chase Sachs-Fargo, yer money’s no good around here anymore.
Have Mega-Mammonists Scored a greed-driven, elimination own goal?
Sep-side, political movements are traditionally contained by Babel-heads, functionaries and factota of those with vested interests in the status quo.
Movement of money back to communities is a revolutionary act in these times of The Big D.C. Fix.
Very smart move this, from Huffy & Co. Only a matter of time before K Street’s MSM blurter-shills start calling Community banks, Commie Banks. 🙂
Like irony, little fish are sweet….. and as Platinum Stratos Dwellers are about to tumble to, an essential part of the bio-fiscal food chain.
Of course if significant global investors in “Greenbacks uber alles”, especially large oil and gas buyers pick up on the trend, the empire Sep will tumble a lot sooner than expected.
Why invest in Unobtainium anyway?
2010 Election Situation Grows More Difficult For Democrats.
An already difficult situation for Democrats in Congress is worsening as the 2010 political season opens.
To minimize expected losses in next fall’s election, President Barack Obama’s party is testing a line of attack that resurrects George W. Bush as a boogeyman and castigates Republicans as cozy with Wall Street.
Four House Democrats from swing districts have recently chosen not to seek re-election, bringing to 11 the number of retirements that could leave Democratic-held seats vulnerable to Republicans. More Democratic retirements are expected.
I notice there is someone in the comments backing up my theories. 😈
734 Ariana’s been getting great coverage with the community bank issue. Good to see.
Careful with them toonies guys or the fundys might come a knockin’.
Alleged terrorist tries to kill controversial cartoonist
Way OT I know….But let’s all give the annual Whirlpool Internet survey a visit and record your likes/dislikes about the state of play in Oz on the intertubes.
It can’t do any harm, and who knows, that clunker Conroy might even pay attention.
(But I won’t be holding my breath!)
If anyone is looking for high quality images, try these. Great stuff.
Catroon as metaphor. Like Chris, I think the “surprise package” is the Mid-Terms. The Kid has blown off quite a bit of his political capital by pissing of the netrooters who guaranteed his success in Nov 2008. A lot of younguns and at least one old fool I know will not be so keen to crank into campaign support mode come the run up to the Mid-Terms.
740 Plenty of time yet.
Crist begins decade fighting poll numbers.
Wikus Van De Werve , “Relocation Meistre”, shows Seth Efricans live-to-air how to deal with a denant who gums the raw brawn.
Saw the trailer a few months back and passed on the film because I figured lead man Wickus one fuck-wit I could live without….. and I’d seen all the FX before.
Well gang, Ecky the Expert couldn’t have made a worse cinematic call.
Zo now ah’m delling yew id’s a gorker of a villum!
This ex army elitist should renounce his Seppo citizenship and move to Australia where he would be an instant boon to TAbbots racist, bigoted, sad liberals and could make some coherent policy on boat arrivals. 😉
Where does Roo find these Pillar of knowledge bastards?
What a racist one eyed bastard. What about strip searching all the young women as well?
From the votemaster.
Happy Election Year!
EC, glad to see you’ve caught one good flick lately. District 9 is indeed a gorker of a villum.
Avatar top $1 billion.
No doubt you will be happy to hear that TAbbott has hit the streets running with a new blog to save Oz. He is pining for the roll out of the new NBN so it all happens faster for him.
Most of the replies are big hugs for him but one is not.
At least one person tells it as he/she sees it. LOL.
He/She is a bit reserved by comparison.
Just can’t quite say Fuck Tony Abbott.
We have now established that two sources you quote are both Republican biased. Rasmussen and Real Clear. I am not suggesting a conspiracy here. 😈
Um, now. Your paranoia has perhaps established in your mind that they are all out to get you. I go by Nate Silver, who believes that Rasmussen are the best pollster – precisely because they talk to likely voters, while most of the other pollsters talk to any old shmuck.
Further, all polls have moved pretty much in step, showing a serious decline in Obama and general Democrat support. I hope that the Democrats are taking this decline seriously, and ignoring those like yourself who are saying it is all a product of rigged polling …
Did you actually look at the evidence?
Going on what you just said you chose to ignore the evidence.
Just for you DAVid more evidence that Rasmussen is biased.
I think the clue there David is Right wing pollster.
Yes, I did look at the evidence. I have actually spent the last half-hour examining the data statistically.
I looked at 15 different pollsters, having a look at the rate at which they show Obama’s approval rating decline.
The average rate of decline among those 15 pollsters over the last 12 months was 1.7 points per month. Rasmussen shows a 1.6 point decline per month in Obama’s approval rating.
In other words, Rasmussen shows Obama’s approval declining at a slower pace than the average pollster, showing no increase in gap between Rasmussen and other pollsters. The differences between the pollsters in fact has been maintained consistently.
The two polls furthest from the average were USA Today (showing a decline of 3.5 per month) and Democracy Corps (showing a decline of .8 per month). All pollsters except USA Today are well within two standard deviations of the mean, with most pollsters clustered around the average (12 of the pollsters lie between 1.4 per month and 1.8 per month).
There is no evidence of a problem with any pollster (on this particular metric) except USA Today.
Hey, I never said he wasn’t in decline. From where Obama was, the only way was down. Regardless of that, Rasmussen is a right wing pollster and Obama will win big in 2010, unless the Democrat Party is stupid. I doubt that very much. Using the Ronald Regan method of blame Jimmy Carter. The Jeff Kennett method of blame Joan Kirner the Malcom Fraser Method of blame Gough Whitlam, the Bob Hawk method of blame Malcolm Fraser (shall I go on)? In that style, Obama will have no trouble blaming the worst president ever. Also, I think each of those people would have had a drop in the polls before their big landslide second term wins.
Interestingly enough, the pollster used by DailyKos is showing a faster decline in Obama’s popularity than Rasmussen (not statistically different though.
Can you define what you mean when you say ‘Right wing pollster’? The implication that I am reading into that is that you think that they dodgy up the numbers in favour of the Republicans. There is zero evidence that they do so, so can you clarify what you mean?
By the way: the reason that I looked at rate of decline was the claim made in the post that you linked to that the difference between Rasmussen and other pollsters was increasing over time. If the rates of change of a pollster is the same as for another pollster, then the difference between them will remain constant. And the rates of change are statistically identical for all the pollsters I have examined (16 now), except for USA Today. So that claim is refuted.
Click on the link at 754 and it is explained there David.
So Mr Rasmussen is right-wing. I knew that. Everyone knows that – he does not hide it.
The question is: does Rasmussen fiddle their data in such a way as to show the Republicans doing better than they are?
Answer: there is no evidence to support such a hypothesis.
I would also question *why* any polling company that supported a particular party *would* fiddle the books. Despite popular misconceptions, there does not appear to be any benefit to doing so, the whole ‘narrative theory’ notwithstanding. I have seen no evidence that opinion polls alter opinions.
Nate’s take on it:
The Politico article:
good for him. Mind you the shorthand version as you said puts is succinctly
Possum has an interesting thread on religion and politics … Abbott may find even his God ain’t gonna get him over the line.
I am puzzled by Obama’s fall in the polls. Did anyone really think that one man could single-handedly end the wars , global warming and the financial crisis that he inherited- did not cause.
Surely reality must prevail here. His willingness to negoitiate while not giving the jihaadists free reign, negitiating with the intransigent middle eat, and trying to manage environmental armageddon while his country and the world is in a finacial basketcase requires juggling that means keeping all the balls in the air while standing ona 3 legged chair. So far he is managing this. Remember the altrenaitive approach. It’s what got us here in the first place.
Happy New Year ticsters
Cmon David, surely you aren’t arguing that polling companies aren’t politically aligned and indulge in agenda setting?
Of course Rasmussen is a Republican arm. Just like Essential Report is a Labour Party arm and Newspoll is a Liberal Party arm.
You only have to follow politics and campaigns to see the obvious.
A short history of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
This is why the censorship issue is dead . The ONLY thing the ALP will understand is the making parliament unworkable for the ALP and some VERY nasty surprises in the election. So if anyone knows of any nasty surprises we can hit them with please step forward. Maybe will will wipe the smile off Kevin Rudds face yet.
The Zombies guy is working on a political book at the moment. Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. 😈
me @765 –
after reading all my spelling mistakes …. 🙄
try and ignore.
Jen at somewhere above
At least Michael O’Hanlon has something positive to say about the first year of the Obama Presidency.
New post up …
Cracks in the Ice