Oz media made a desperate grasp for vested “meaningfulness” by deciding to manufacture a “contest” of the 2010 Australian Federal Election.
Whoopee doo.
Enter stage left ex-PMs: Big Mal, Silver Bodgie, Ruddbot The Loyal, but not Keato.
Enter stage Right: Mad Mark, El (Murali’s a chucker!) Rodentino and Bobby Santamaria’s Ghost.
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The impact going forward (Newtonian Politics) of the above celebrity fringe dwellers was boosted with appearances by assorted shit-kickers of marginal relevance. Feel the surge, Ticsters. The “swing is on” but it’s “too close to call”. From coast to sea-girt coast across our sunburnt land, cliffs are being pre-emptively cordoned-off from potential hangers. And be consoled men and women of Australia that as we go forward, no child will be left behind. Touching, really, the certainty and comfort of cliches.
Who knows why the MSM did it. In the mood for a little revenue-raisin’ and funnin’ I guess. Citizen Rupert of Delaware, dear old Auntie and Fair(and balanced)fax are generally so even-handed in matters of national importance that the savaging of Julia “I’m a Ranga” Prole came as a complete surprise to many seasoned election watchers and more than a few political junkies.
Hugh Mackay reckons the last four weeks have been a beat-up monumentale.
Can’t disagree. Hugh, who has a finely honed professional schnoz for these things, can’t perceive the whiff of imminent national change. Next Sunday morning Australians will awaken to the reality of a female Prime Minister who is an unmarried atheist and we, preferentially, will have elected her over a bigoted neo-neanderthal who will comfortably retain his seat of Warringah.
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1392 HusseinStWorm I’m not dead yet. There’s nothing he can do about it. So it doesn’t matter.
well ticksters.
just realised that it is the anniversary of the most horrible terrorist event in my lifetime to date. The dreaded-never-will-we-recover- so-lets -go-all-out-and- bomb-Baghdad-and-invade-Afghanistan 9/11.
And here we still are worrying about a whole lot of kerfuffle.
Remember how nothing would ever be the same again..???
Resilient critters ain’t we.
And Fuck GWB
Fuck GWB & JWH!!!!
Here is a map of the USA showing how the election would go if it was held now. Thanks goodness it won’t be.
http://www.electoral-vote.com
We forgot one fuck. TB.
Mike Carlton trots out all the expletives in his column today.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/kinder-gentler-welcome-back-to-the-nasty-old-paradigm-20100910-154v5.html
Roo needs exposing in everything he says and does.
What an “A” class grub of the highest order.
Rupert Murdoch and the future of British media
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/12/rupert-murdoch-british-media
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Is an expose of how he wanted to get Abbort in to power and then take over the ABC and ruin the NBN.
Abbort needs to be asked these questions of what he promised Murdoch at his
cock suckingprivate breakfast before the elections.HaHaHa Julias team Western Bulldogs wins their final by 5 points and Abborts team Manly at the moment being thrashed by St George 28-0. He is a loser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onh2lNcbHE8
There is no end to the Delaware Mongrel.
It is not enough for him to daily brainwash the public with his media, now he wants to build schools where he can
teachbrainwash students how to be good reporters/journalists.He has no shame. Why can’t he be in the same building when one of those fruit loop gunmen go ballistic because he got soft yolk instead of hard yolk eggs FFS.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/sep/12/rupert-murdoch-academy-schools
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Chris
And you forgot another one’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otsfhMFhi2s&feature=fvst
I love playing that, it makes me feel good.
Hat tip to over the fence.
The NY Times must have really done their homework before opening up this festering sore again and TF. Well done NYT.
andy Coulson could be the modern day Mandy and Christine.
‘Read all about it: The secret dossier of lawbreaking that spells trouble for Rupert Murdoch…and David Cameron’
‘Rebekah Brooks was among journalists who used a private detective who was later convicted’
By Brian Brady and James Hanning
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/read-all-about-it-the-secret-dossier-of-lawbreaking-that-spells-trouble-for-rupert-murdochand-david-cameron-2077170.html
A good link in the above article also; Phone-hacking: Where does it all go from here?
1413 gaffhook Keep it coming gaffy. I’m enjoying this stuff!
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/hell_20100912/
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Yes, great stuff indeed, gaffy. Wonder if any journos in Australia will have the guts to do an expose of the Mongrel Media Mogel’s “spot of bother ” in the UK. The NYT, btw, is not going the Dirty Digger from motives of truth or justice. Their actions are bigtime corporate “get-square”. Strictly bidness for them, imo.
What’s needed on behalf of all commonly decent Australians, is that Brand Rupert is irredeemably besmirshed in the land of his birth, where his bastardry has exceeded the bounds of avarice and egotism.
“FGB” you say, Jen, and I chorus you beyond clouds cumulus. The tool is a war criminal like his downunder arsewipe, Johnny Rodent.
However these days I wanna see Rupert well and truly, broad- spectrum rooted. 🙂
I believe this guy is Tony Abbott’s shadow minister for fireworks. 😆
http://tinyurl.com/3yg8297
P.S. Love the banjo work. 😀
Chris B,
The Democrats are going to lose a heap of seats all over the country. Hopefully, they will hold on to enough to keep the House. But it does not look good – way worse than my predictions. They are going to lose 30+ in the House and 6 to 7 in the Senate. And it could be 50+ and 8 to 10 …
Whichever way you look at it, the Democrats have stuffed the last two years in a political sense, despite some key policy victories. Reminds me of the ALP here. The ALP hung on. Hopefully the Democrats can, too. But there will be no Green BOP in the US Senate, unfortunately.
1416
Paddy
That’s what you call opening their budget portfolio binder. 😆
1417 David Gould If the election was held now.
Anti Boehner advertisement. Not sure if it is that effective. But a start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Gny_XSedE&feature=player_embedded
I notice that the front page of The Australian today does not have any blatant anti-Labor headlines today. I wonder whether the content of the front page has been affected by the strong criticism in recent days?
Austan Goolsbee Calls Out Chris Wallace for the Small Business Tax Lie.
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Goolsbee is very, very effective.
more here..
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/austan-goolsbee-calls-out-chris-wallace-sm
Chris B,
It is very difficult to reverse a year-long decline in 6 weeks of election campaigning. Remember Howard in 2007? Further, the polling has consistently shown a decline in the enthusiasm of Democrat voters, so the headline results of the polls – as bad as they are for the Democrats – might actually be flattering them a little. I am a pessimist (well, short-term pessimist, long-term optimist) but I think that I have good reason to be pessimistic in this case.
Ticsters, we are fulsomely abreast of the Mongrel Mogul’s shennanigans. Here’s a commenter on LP who places The Dirty Delaware’s nefarious decolletage in Hestial focus. 🙂
Sir Henry Casingbroke says:
September 12, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Julia Gillard was asked about the extreme partisan path that News Ltd and The Australian in particular, chose during the campaign and in the interregnum of 17 days after it, and she played a dead bat.
Certainly, she didn’t draw any explicit conclusions that Bob Brown did. Nor did she hint at any retribution, as did Brown, who said that an inquiry into News’s role in the rugby league salary debacle may be on the cards. Indeed, it will be interesting to see if Bob’s threats actually eventuate in a Senate committee room. I wouldn’t mind seeing Harto answering some questions under oath.
It is intriguing that News should mobilise its huge forces to such an extent and with such vehemence against the ALP this time around.
If we look, below, at the distribution of pub. titles across population centres, it is clear that where the company is most pervasive and therefore most influential – indeed where it has a district monopoly on newspaper titles – it is strongest in Queensland and that is where Labor’s fortunes ebbed most strongly too.
The Australian (Nationwide)
The Weekend Australian (Nationwide)
The Courier-Mail (Queensland)
The Sunday Mail (Queensland)
The Cairns Post (Cairns, Queensland)
The Gold Coast Bulletin (Gold Coast, Queensland)
Townsville Bulletin (Townsville, Queensland)
Innisfail Advocate (Innisfail, Queensland)
Tablelander (Atherton, Queensland)
The Daily Telegraph (New South Wales)
The Sunday Telegraph (New South Wales)
The Herald Sun (Victoria)
The Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria)
The Weekly Times (Victoria)
mX (Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane CBDs)
Geelong Advertiser (Geelong, Victoria)
The Advertiser (South Australia)
The Sunday Mail (South Australia)
The Sunday Times (Western Australia)
The Mercury (Tasmania)
The Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania)
Northern Territory News (Northern Territory)
The Sunday Territorian (Northern Territory)
News Ltd also owns a huge chunk of suburban and local newspapers in NSW via Cumberland Newspapers and Courier newspapers group.
Again, News’s local newspapers were just as virulent in their rejection of Labor members at a local level and just as embracing of the Coalition.
Never mind The Australian, which has a small, and diffuse circulation. The Daily Telegraph truly poisoned the well with its Der Stuermer-like vicious caricatures of Gillard as a full front page, and which were calculated to demean and ridicule the prime minister as an individual. It is instructive to actually call up Der Stuermer (“The Attacker”) in Google and compare. The techniques are identical and this is a bit of a worry.
A Wiki article says that the intention was for Der Stuermer to “appeal to the common man, to the worker with little time to read. Thus, Der Stuermer’s articles used short sentences and a simple vocabulary. Ideas were repeated. Headlines grabbed a reader’s attention. And the cartoons were easily understood.”
In the case of 2010 political campaign, News Ltd had at its disposal not just the 23 metropolitan newspapers but also a hundred or so of locals throughout Australia, including 32 in Sydney.
Check this out for yourself. Wherever you go, be it a sandwich shop, a motor repair customer waiting room, coffeshop, a takeaway, doctor’s waiting room, a hospital emergency, bush shelters, trains – there is always a News Ltd pub., creating a wall of propaganda that is hard to resist on both a conscious and a subconscious level.
Human beings, being hardwired pack/group animals, obtain their clues on how to proceed from reinforcement. To test the veracity of messages from the environment on how to survive, we constantly test input for reinforcement. Hence, a repeated or similar message from seemingly disparate sources tend to formate ideas which appear to be validated by way of repetition.
This is why advertising works best if a campaign is simultaneously spread across different media (billboards, buspaks, radio, TV and newspapers) and why News Ltd is so powerful nowadays: they have seized control of mass communication.
Since the last election, News has grabbed another swatch of titles with its absorption of Courier newspapers, for example. Its stranglehold on what ordinary people read and see in print at least is almost total. It is an opinion-forming behemoth. Its mind-control mechanism is totalitarian in its scope and reach.
No wonder that Gillard was evasive on The Insiders earlier today when invited to dump on News. She chose to gently chide rather than unload.
But it will not do any good to suck up to News. Like Robocop, News cannot be cajoled or charmed. Even its best journalists are ultimately beholden to their employer. They owe their $150,000+ living to the company and even though in their heart of hearts they know they are participating in what is a travesty of news delivery, they are forced to defend it: this was evident to those who saw George Megalogenis when confronted with, and asked about what Laura Tingle wrote in the AFR his was uncharacteristically weak and mealymouthed rationalisation of his paper’s stance, someone obviously primarily concerned with protecting his meal-ticket. And again, Dennis Atkins, on Insiders today.
OK, we know that News is doing it, but why is it doing it? Clearly, News does not have an ideological issue with the current Labor Government like it did with the Whitlam government.
Fear of exposure over the salary cap through some sort of inquiry? This is unlikely to be the reason. Labor wouldn’t dare to take News on – it is essentially gutless these days, only daring to eat its own rather than take on its enemies outside, and anyway, the question of payback only would have arisen after the election, after most of the damage to it was done, not before it.
So what is it? Why has News gone so hard, and so viciously and indeed, so desperately with the possibility of a backlash against it – which is gathering a bit of momentum, as we speak.
I reckon it is the rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN). Once the full ramifications of NBN to its bottom line dawned on News it quickly got a total compliance to kill it from Abbott as a quid pro quo.
(And of course it is ironic, is it not, that NBN was cited as the reason the senior partner in the independents’ alliance, for supporting Labor.)
NBN threatens News’ position as a pre-eminent controller of thought because it has the potential to demolish barriers to entry into virtual-MSM from myriad of players.
Already blogs such this have become a thorn in the side of MSM generally and News in particular. What was once an oracular position is now spoiled by heckling from the blogosphere, which spoils the total concept as outlined above.
With NBN complete, everyone can potentially become a broadcaster in high definition.
Already, in our household, we have a powerful computer with a 27-inch screen and a fast broadband connection that allows us to stream and watch movies and programs in HD.
NBN will allow netcasting – in real time.
NBN will make the provisions contained under legislation about ownership regulations contained in the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 obsolete.
We know that Murdoch hates the web (as it is now) because it costs him money. NBN will add insult to fiscal injury.
Ticsters, a growing number of people who are good at what they do are writing that the NBN is dodgy. It worries me when Peter Martin says it. He’s no hack (though Christopher Joye whom he links to in this piece give me the shits).
http://petermartin.blogspot.com/2010/09/nbn-is-slowly-unfolding-disaster.html
Hopefully he won’t have to worry about the fiscal side of it unless he has to buy protection in the slammer.
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Katielou
There will be lots and lots more naysayers coming out of the woodwork once they realise how their well paid earner is going to be shredded with the advent of FTTH via the new NBN.
The full fibre network will have the ability to shift information by way of voice, video etc, instant, like we have never seen before, which in effect will eliminate the need for the Fran Kellys and Dennis Shannahans to give us our daily bread.
Someone sitting in traffic at the lights will be able to live stream the nearby bank robbery/shootout on his new dick tracy phone.
Someone sitting in the grandstand will be able to beam the game up live on his new dick tracy phone.
Like that guy in ECs post above says, all the current Myrmidons will become myths of the past and we will not need them for up to date information. Twitter will be live stream with voiceover, instant.
Some doctors will not like it as they will want to keep patient information to themselves so the patient will be loyal as their past history is with them.
The new NBN will allow information to a different doctor where the patient is unable to access his/her own doctor whilst on hollidays on weekends etc.
The new NBN is going to have such a profound effect on some occupations and their now grossly overrated pay cheques, that is why there is resistance. Whatever Peter Martin gets for his newspaper colums at the moment will become a bygone era because news print will become redundant.
I used to love Dick Tracy comics and i now love seeing Dick Tracy events unfold in the real world, and i will not be sad when the new NBN has a disastrous effect on the likes of the Mongrel Media Mogul from Delaware.
People who rely on media bucks for their daily bread will be naturally resistant but that will be like trying to hold back the tide.
KL, don’t know Peter Martin apart from fleeting glimpses of his columns. He’ll do what he has to in public re toeing the company line like fellow scribe, George Megalogenis if he wants to pay his mortgage off, I guess.
Gaffy, as the NBN is being rolled out near you, have they hinted as a hook up date as yet?
Here’s a follow up comment from Sir Henry re Rupe and NBN at LP:
“I do not think this is an issue of ideology but a principle of marketing: to protect and defend the brand. News is doing whatever it can protect its profit centres and if it has to do it through a coup d’etat, so be it. This is the main reason why it has assiduously collected and built political influence. It works.
On the other hand NBN is a total game changer. There have been other game changers in the media before, ushered in by technology, current (slow) broadband itself being one.
In many such instances the existing players do not fully understand what is afoot, they do not understand or believe in what is about to happen.
The transistor changed radio. Radio stations that didn’t alter their programming, died. Radio had been a family medium, the main target being “housewives”, hence the reliance on the soap opera ( Lux Hour). The young were not factored into the equation. The transistor being cheap and portable was quickly adopted by teens, and the Top 40 happened and changed the game. Radio stations that did not quickly adapt went out of business. Then FM happened and killed AM music stations. The latter became “talk radio”. TV killed the radio plays. The net is killing newspapers. Etc, etc, etc.
But the NBN – a very very fast broadband with no capacity constraints, and subsidised by the government is revolutionary in that it is the mother of all game changers.
That’s because all the MSM outlets have high barriers to entry: newspapers because of the astronomically high cost of web offset presses required to print a million newspapers an hour plus a distribution system via newsagents; for radio and TV you need government licenses that are granted to the chosen few.
Now we have broadband that is penetrating most households. A fibre-optic cable is a super-fast broadband which will allow those with talent and interest and something to say to be able to broadcast high quality material (technically speaking) into the home without any licence whatsoever and fairly minimal start up cost. If you can launch a website, you can launch a radio station.
Portable reading devices picking up signal from fibre-optic hotspots and way stations will diminish the tremendous profitability of an old media in a few hands by allowing downlaods of the latest news in a few seconds.
This must be worrying to News. They are preoccupied with the seemingly uncontrolled and uncontrollable nature of the internet – we know this because of what Murdoch pere and fils have said, and what Harto has said about paid gateways, and how the content is filched and “stolen”; and what Murdoch has said about ABC 24.
NBN, – think 10+ gigabytes of data per second (two full-length movies in HD) – is their worst nightmare.”
Notwithstanding the human tragedy, if the billions of dollars wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan were avilable for our NBN it would be done, dusted, laid and connected Ozwide before late 2013.
Well, I don’t think Peter Martin is part of any media conspiracy to damn the NBN for the sake of it. I guess it’s possible he’s not very tech savvy and/or is perhaps traditional in his outlook – ie not likely to buy any “nation building” argument – he wants to see hard cost/benefit data.
Fair enough, KL, Peter sure lacks “The Vision” thing though. Hard figures arn’t my forte but high-volume, worldwide, uncensored, instant, interconnectedness is something of huge consequence to billions of people. If News can no longer shape and control the action, they first lose their mojo, then they lose megabucks.
Remberer the comment by Rupe (Wendy rolled her eyes ) noted by Rupe’s biographer in Vanity Fair when the Murdoch’s had the Google founders over for dinner. After lots of chitty-chatting Rupert turned and asked the Googlers:
“So how come you guys don’t read newspapers?”
I do disclose a loathing for Mr. Murdoch’s utter detachment from the unnecessary human misery for which he has been directly responsible over the years. The bloke’s just another ultra-alpha corporate sociopath at heart. He just happens to be the biggest 🙂
Anyway, here’s something we’re unlikely to read on front page of the OO.
http://www.buddeblog.com.au/
1423 David Gould I’ve explained exactly how they are going to do it David. You’ll just have to be patient.
1424 Enemy Combatant Brilliant article EC. I agree with everything you say.
Hence, the faster they do the NBN the better.
1425 Katielou They are on the News Limited bandwagon.
EC the original proposal was rolled out in our trial area by end of November, ie boxes on the house etc. The ISPs were then to sell us their best plans and we would be fully up and running by March 2011. I am pretty sure things came to a halt during the election and am not sure what the current state of play is.
I will be very disappointed if they have gone nervous and are sitting dormant at the moment.
I have lodged my application form for acceptance of hook up to the house, which at this stage is opt in and free. They have acknowledged that they have received it so i am in at this stage. I believe they will be looking at an opt out rather than opt in as they go past the house.
It is free done like that but will cost if not accepted when they roll past.
I have not seen any plans as yet but the Tassie plans offered by the ISPs were very competetive and better and cheaper than current. I think iinet had some really good plans including free landline and mobile phone calls.
I do a fair bit of Skype calling and it is not the best under the current ADSL set up. Not enough bandwith at times.
The new NBN will well and truly take care of that.
Without phonecards a landline call to China is $1 per min so on an unlimited plan at the moment i can skype China and talk for an hour as part of my existing plan.
Just getting rid of the landline rental will be $30 per month i can put in to a NBN plan.
Imagine all the free hotspots and you can make a Skype type call on your new phone while sitting in the street.
Telstra has rung twice to see how i am going and offered a bettter service at a cheaper rate than now but only if i signed a two year contract. They are just gouging arseholes.
Looks like this was their latest press release.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/upload/files/NBNCo_TownsvilleConsentRelease_3.08.10.pdf
yep EC and another subject we will not read about on the front page of the OO is the phone Hack Scandal playing out in the UK at the moment which Rupe is up to his armpits in.
Thankfully it is only a mouse click away.
Katilou EC is spot on. Other newspapers also have a lot to lose as well. Unless they adapt.
Link from EC’s article I found this. Which is probably why Conroy kept his job.
http://www.budde.com.au/Research/Global-BuddeComms-International-Broadband-and-Trans-sector-Activities.html
Oh FFS Ticsters. What’s all this stuff and nonsense about NBN and newspaper bias etc etc etc. Get with the program people.
The *REAL* issues of the day, are the first Echidna hairdresser, Australian flag bikinis and what the powerfox would look like in a Bronnie beehive. (see frame 4) 😆
http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/BackToTheLodge.jpg
1437 My inference from that is that other papers may campaign against the NBN as well.
An excellent piece by Tim Dunlop on the journalist’s struggle with the new world of online media and dealing with the feedback.
Well worth a look.
http://tjd.posterous.com/three-things-journalists-can-learn-from-tony#more
Hmm…That link above @1440 is slightly borked.
Just click on the “Go to B Sides” on the page it takes you to and the article appears.
Oh yes…I know it’s petty and maybe even a little vindictive……
But GAWD!!! I *DID* enjoy this piece by Marike. 😎 😆
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/13/3010334.htm?site=thedrum
If I set aside issues with News Ltd for the moment, what I’ve noticed amongst businessmen I talk to is that they use apparent rationality to dismiss climate change action, the NBN, a minority government. And I know some of these people vote Labor. But still, I have a sense talking to these people that I’m irrational if I think the Labor minority government could be a good thing, if I think something can be done about climate change etc etc.
I think some people hide behind apparent financial or political rationality to cover their political beliefs for fear of embarrassment in a group of business people.
IMO, the easiest thing in the business community is to say “well, I know practically it just won’t work” and “it” could be any number of things.
1442 paddy Good stuff paddy. I think Marike will be better than her father.
Chris, it’s is a good pice but I didn’t write it, just C&P’d from LP poster, “Sir Henry Casingbroke”. KL has a valid point about Peter Martin and it’s fair that the NBN layout plans are vetted by non-aligned experts. 37+ $billion is a lot of bananas.
Had a look at Malcom Turnball’s NBN criticisms and although no expert, they don’t persuade me. Paul Budde would benefit business-wise from NBN, but he certainly knows his turf and mounts persuasive arguments.
If we can do a potent NBN cheaper, no worries, but the sooner the better.
Katielou @1414:
Friction-free conformity is what most non-combatative employees project in order to do “easy corporate time”.
The gladiators deified, glide upstairs as easily as ex-Australian Rugby reps to law firm boardrooms.
Teh little people need to keep their sanity and support their families or themselves, so they keep their heads down and play the three wise monkeys survival game.
The controlleurs need the obeisance of the cog-folk and their handlers, so that bigtime bottom lines can be guanteed for owners and investors.
Always bad for business if the natives are restless.
Before one knows it the drums….the drums…. begin to pound incessantly. 🙂
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay
The lost “Downfall” tape has been found at last.
Tony Abbott, eat your jocks out. 😆
http://vimeo.com/14798149
Still Monday morning in the old Dart but still a couple of stories appearing about the phone hack saga.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2010/sep/13/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-news-corp
This story is reasonably tame but just keeps up with who is doing what re the antics of Roos Myrmidons.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9I40C000.htm
Sept 8:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/tom-toles
Sept 10:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/pat-oliphant
So how come the leaders of the world’s “moderate religions” havn’t risen as one to condemn the behaviour of their own fanatics and hatemongers; neo-crusaders and jihadists?
They gave little or muted at best support for Obama’s appeal for calm and reason re the proposed NY mosque.
Are these religioud leaders cowards or hypocrites? What possible motive for looking the other way could they have?
1445 Enemy Combatant I won’t tell anyone. If you don’t tell anyone.
qanda –
what a bunch of overweight lightweights 😡
reckon ABC could do better the first week after a government was elected.
And have to say as a Green am disappointed that once again Young Sarah gets the gong… many better representatives in our mob .
I’d have to agree with you there Jen.
Also, the sight of Jabba the Hutt sitting next to a very pregnant Tanya is strangely unsettling. It’s the boofy blokes who could bare raise a triple figure IQ betwen them..Vs The dangerous ladies tonight.
T.Jones is doing an utterly crap job of moderating and I’d MUCH rather listen to Lenore Taylor than boof & boof. 🙁
U.S. Plans $60B Saudi Arms Deal
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The Daily Beast
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/us-plans-60b-saudi-arms-deal/big-stick/?cid=hp:mainpromo1
Wow! Talk about timing for the election. I didn’t take that one into consideration. This has follow a very good week for Obama. This sort of announcement can only make the polls go one way. The Neocons will be spewing!!!!
Yes Jen and paddy, i would have to agree there.
Tony Jones is a piss poor moderator.
Questioner; Why are you using the term illegitimate for the Govt.
Boof Truss; Batts, BER, debt, waste for about three minutesbefore Jones finally interupts and reminds him about the word illegitimate.
Pathetic.
Chris B,
A bit odd that a lefty like you would support a massive arms sale to a fascist oil dictatorship like the Saudi royal family …
1457 David Gould I look at it this way. So far Saudia Arabia as a country, hasn’t attacked anyone, yet. (Though the 911 bombers were Saudia). There is balance with Iran. They have trillions in oil revenue. They have to spend it somewhere. Much better all that money going to the USA to help Obama get re elected. Than lets say legitimise a Republican government.
I would rather see no arms anywhere and world peace. But that won’t happen now. The best chance of that is through Obama. That is a very long route.
Elizabeth Warren Under Consideration For Interim CFPB Chief.
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More here…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/13/elizabeth-warren-interim-cfpb-chief-consideration_n_715457.html
Chris B,
Saudi Arabia spends millions of dollars supporting Jihadist schools outside of Saudi Arabia. They funded and still fund the Taliban. Their government is completely corrupt and oppresses its own people – no wonder they turn to terrorism.
The US has a long history of supporting dictatorships to ‘balance’ other nations – it was their strategy throughout the Cold War, and led to much suffering. Saddam Hussein was one of these dictators; the Taliban were another murderous group that the US supported.
Saudi Arabia is not the solution to the problems in the Middle East and the issues that the West has at present with radical Islam. They are in fact one of the main problems. Arming them is a huge mistake.
Oprah Gives Australia Trip To ENTIRE Audience.
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More here…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/13/oprah-gives-australia-tri_n_715108.html
Lest there be any doubt as to why Lindsay Tanner resigned, he’s has signed a book deal to write about the dumbing down of politics.
http://petermartin.blogspot.com/2010/09/tanner-to-tell-all_14.html
1461 David Gould Most of that I agree with. They don’t have a history of invading other countries. They are also not aggressive with their neighbours. At the moment I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. The only way to change Saudia Arabia is with an NBN setup like Australia. America is the most important country to change first. If the Repugs get control in November the WORLD is doomed.
Chris B,
Saudi Arabia deserve no benefit of the doubt. Selling them billions of dollars worth of state-of-the-art weaponry is going to help no-one, except some weapons companies and a dictatorship desperately trying to cling to power.
The world will not be doomed if the Republicans win control in November, simply because Obama can veto anything they put forward. Further, they are not going to get 60 Senate seats, so the Democrats can filibuster almost anything that they do not like. In addition, the Republicans do not doom the world whenever they get in power. They stuff things up and hurt lots of people. That is not dooming the world.
The US selling $50 billion worth of optic fibre to Saudi Arabia would be a much better outcome.
Oprah headed to Australia to shoot show.
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I can certainly see an opportunity for our Prime Minister here..
more here..
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/oprah-headed-to-australia-to-shoot-show-20100914-159jy.html
Ticsters, if you didn’t catch Australian Story last night you missed a riveting program. It was on Michael Ware who’s the Australian journalist working with CNN and Time in Iraq and Afghanistan – he reported from the insurgents side during the Iraq War. Last night was Part 1 of 2. Great stuff.
David and Chris, enjoyed your exchange on U.S. arms sales to the House of Saud. Michael Moore did some brilliant work in Farenheit 911 documenting the Saudi rulers’ links with U.S. Arms and Oil covering the time of Lawrence of Arabia onward. It’s probably on You-Tube now.
Yes KL, Aust. Story about Michael Ware is the stuff of Walkeleys. Such a complex man, Ware. Brilliant, reckless, tender and beholden to none of the MSM if it doesn’t suit him. Kept getting flashes of Vietnam war reporter Sean Flynn who was acknowledged in Michael Herr’s Vietnam war masterpiece, “Dispatches” upon which Coppola relied for “Apocalyse Now”.
Also had flashes of ABC film journo, Neil “death is a lady” Davis who was killed in Cambodia in the thick of combat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Davis_(cameraman)
Do yourselves a favour, Ticsters, and watch the replay on ABC online. Then Pt. 2 next Monday. Ware grew up in Brisbane and struggled to complete a law degree before realising the Law was not for him. Someone at the CM offered him a job as a journo and the rest is one of the rides of which legends are made.
KL and EC
Thoroughly enjoyed the Aust Story Pt1 on Ware.
I was a slave to Iraq coverage during the dark years and Michael Ware had me fascinated. He seemed to be the complete opposite of the hundreds of generic “Coalition War Journalists” on assignment in Iraq. He seemed to be telling a totally different story to the generics.
He also had a fascinating face and manor of reporting. He really lived it and lived his reporting of it.
An intriguing man, and by the preview to Pt2, he seems to be struggling with his new normalcy.
On domestic matters, i guess with the appointment of Malbull to Shadow Communications we can put the final nail in the Filter Coffin…..?
Harry, the filter is a joke as anyone with rudimentary net nous knows. I think Conroy is pandering to the wowsers many of whom don’t understand how easy the filter is to circumvent. Most of ’em are thick as planks ffs. 🙂
The fundies are quietly fuming that an unmarried atheist is about to shack up in The Lodge with her fellah. Maybe Conroy’s ultra-conservative web-filter stance could be to keep as sweet as possible with these self-appointed bastions of The Public Morality lest they reach for their pitchforks and begin fingering witches for the flames. 🙂
Step aside, Ah-Pook, there’s a New Destroyer in town!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/14/3011557.htm
For the ticster twitterati, you may like to add Naomi Klein to your followings list. Ms Klein just started a few days ago but she has already turned the snark up to 11.
http://twitter.com/NaomiAKlein
If Turnbull wants to become PM and he woudn’t have hung about (with his net wealth) if he didn’t fancy his chances, he’ll take Shadow Communications and go through the motions waiting for Monky to bring himself undone. He could taunt Tony by finding aspects of the NBN that are outstanding but need to be properly costed etc, but Malcs will have to time his moves carefully. He only lost the leadership to Abbott by one party room vote. Minchin will be gone from The Senate on July 1. So will much of the ordure that wafts about him. The ugly Right of the Coalition will have less pull on some HoR Libs as they feel the comfort of The Centre in an Australia now ruled by a Cetre-Left Gillard minority govt.
If there’s any instability about at the moment, reckon it’s The LibNats who are most vulnerable.
It would be nice if war spending received as much “public scrutiny” as social infrastructure like the NBN. This article from the OZ on whether to spend 35 billion on 12 submarines or not, is quite a contrast to the the campaign against the 42 billion NBN.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/we-all-lose-if-we-buy-submarines-off-the-shelf/story-e6frg8zx-1225887763691
Has an economist ever totalled up the cost of the F-111 project and divided it by the number of shots fired in anger?
I think I know which investment future generations will be thanking us for.
Hear, Hear, Hussey! There are German or Sweedish BMW/Saab type subs brand spanking new for less than a $Bill. last time I peroused Jane’s. 🙂
Australia could glom 20 state-of-the-art subs which would more than accomplish our DEfensive capacity and have, say 15 $Bill., to kick into the NBN rollout.
Rocket Science it ain’t!
It might be easier to sue Roo for some gold medallions and spread them across the land. Every one else seems to be getting in on the act.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/sep/13/phone-hacking-coogan-tarrant
Well gaffy, the least we could do for The Dirty Delaware is send a musical tribute to the sirens and goddesses of his tabloid page 3’s
http://www.flickr.com/photos/imageglenbourne/2082405168/
Here’s to them for youthful thoughts salacious and may they all have fared well in later years. Thanks for all the diamond cutters, ladies. 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHY3GEhdsc&feature=related
Hadn’t heard this song by Toots before. Was looking for something else on you-tube, found this clip, read your “I wanna sue roo too” report…….et voila! Toots has the gift of a golden voice, cords that can merge effortlessly from treacle to growl. Very unusual to hear pedal a steel with a roots rock reggae outfit. Works well. Very tight band too.
They are certainly coming out of the woodwork now.
Steve Coogan is in for a chop now,
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/steve-coogan-threatens-to-sue-rupert-murdoch%E2%80%99s-news-international/
The London Bobbies may even have to fork out some Poundies as well for not properly investigating Roo and informing those that were hacked.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-14/london-police-are-sued-over-news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-investigation.html
Ticsters, it was quite fortunate that my washing machine broke and caused me to run late for work, because I got to catch most of an interview with John Menadue on ABC 702. Here’s a bio…
So he was talking about the role of media in the election campaign. He said that the media performed dreadfully – all the stuff we’ve been saying. He said that The ABC carried it’s news from the Australian. And when asked about the role of The Australian in the election he said that “it was pernicious” and repeated the word a bit later for good measure.
As Laura Tingle said – putting the bell on the cat.
I will keep a watch out for the transcript and audio and post a link when it’s available.
Has anyone noticed Malcolm Turnbull has been set up to fail?
NBN works = Turnbull fails.
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Chris
This confirms IMHO that what you posted there is it in a nutshell.
This is a good insight and a good read,
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/The-NBN-may-crush-Turnbull-pd20100915-9ASWA?OpenDocument&src=sph
Chris B @ 1483
Alan Kohler agrees with you.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/The-NBN-may-crush-Turnbull-pd20100915-9ASWA?OpenDocument
Lol gaffhook
Small Business Aid Bill Clears Senate.
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Obama is really having a big fortnight. Finishing big on Friday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/small-business-aid-bill-s_n_715848.html
Thanks for the backup guys. Haven’t had time to read them myself.
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O’Donnell Wins Republican Senate Primary In Delaware.
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Gee’s the loonies are really getting up. Just what the Democrats want.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine-odonnell-tonight-pulled-off.php?ref=fpa
Christine O’Donnell’s 1996 Anti-Masturbation Campaign On MTV’s ‘Sex In The 90s’ (VIDEO).
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What a looney. The Repugs are setting themselves up for a real loss at this election.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/christine-odonnells-1996-anti-masturbation-campaign-on-mtvs-sex-in-the-90s.php?ref=tn
Mal has cut and pasted one of his pre election rants about the NBN to the Drum.
He is copping a bit of a pasting in the comments.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3011928.htm#comments
Katielou
Menadue is up now.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/files/john-menadue-interview.mp3
I put that link up yesterday to Peter Martin’s piece on the NBN. Martin had in turn linked to a piece by Peter Cox, another economist that was critical of the NBN. This piece on The Drum largely demolishes Peter Cox’s NBN criticisms.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3012555.htm
Thanks Gaffhook (@ 1492). I highly recommend that interview.
New thread up, gang. Rather enjoying all the intrigue. Been banned from my local barber shop for perturbing the great untrimmed. 🙂
https://politic.osm.net/2010/09/to-term-or-not-to-term/