Two years ago Barack Hussein Obama was elected President of the U.S. with Democrats having a majority in Congess and an almost fiflibuster-proof majority in The Senate. Tomorrow the politicl landscape will have changed somewhat. To what degree depends largely on how many formerly energised Democratic supporters are “getting out the vote” because we know that a buzzed-up bunch of Tea-Baggers are going gangbusters to rally their people for E-Day.
Conventional Wisdom and assorted Solomons of Psephology like Nate “NYT” Silver predict Dems will lose the Congress and hold The Senate by a whisker. Seems a fair call, but wouldn’t be surprised if the Dems get done in the Senate too. We’ve all had our two bob’s worth over the possible result and the reasons for it. In the next day, many of those quetions and points of conjecture will be answered.
1,024 replies on “Loose Change Is Hard To Belive In”
I know I am being one tracked about this, but it bothers me that we are entering a milder but nevertheless as potentially destructive a situation here as in the US.
At the recent Victorian election I took part in a candidate’s forum along the lines of QandA.
The first statement from the Country Alliance candidate whom I had just spent about 5 minutes in very civil conversation was “the Greens are our number one enemy” – greeted with loud applause from a very vocal part of the audience. (CA is the old Shooters and Fishers party, unofficially fronted by Bob Katter)
I was quite stunned – the hostility was palpable, and completely unnecessary but their entire campaign was run on these lines including television adds saying similar things. On polling day I and others handing out for The Greens copped some pretty aggressive people quoting similar stuff -“you’re The Enemy”. “you want to talke my guns and my civil rights” and so on.
I was disturbed by this new level of paranoia … and am even more so now.
tv ads
take my guns
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Just heard the Q’ld weather report – hope you are all ok up there!
Bloody dire from the sound of it.
Classic. Watch how Fox News reacts to the mention of Sarah Palin at a vigil for Rep Gifford.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-news-cuts-away-giffords-vigil-when-
I was tuning in channel 11 when I noticed an (obvious fake) reference to the (once again) illegal act of crush video’s. How long before a news organisation picks it up and acts with horror giving channel 11 the free publicity they want.
Note. It was only in the USA that it was declared legal under free speech last year by the Supreme Court. Very quickly the congress pushed through a new law correctly written to make it illegal again. Thank goodness.
Crush Fetish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_fetish
“It’s not a wake-up call, it’s a four-alarmer,”
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— Rep. Robert Brady (D-PA), quoted by the Washington Post, saying he’ll introduce legislation “that would make it a federal crime to use language or images that could be interpreted as inciting violence toward members of Congress or federal officials.”
http://politicalwire.com
806 Will they be able to use this bill as a major issue in 2012?
I wait to see.
I’m so used to heavy metal music and video games getting the blame for the killing sprees of young white men, It’s quite challenging to hear a sheriff blaming the shock jocks for inspiring these crimes. I wonder if the sheriff is a fan of Bowling For Columbine?
Paul Krugman calls it straight on the Arizona shooting. No room for false equivalency here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html?_r=1&src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman
An especially poignant FirstDogontheMoon.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/01/10/sincere-condolences/
809 Spot on Katielou. Its the Democrats that have to shine a light on the causes.
KL@810
a Wonkley for Mr Onthemoon I hope.
and from Krugman’s article…
“Will they (the GOP) accept the reality of what’s happening to America, and take a stand against eliminationist rhetoric? Or will they try to dismiss the massacre as the mere act of a deranged individual, and go on as before? ”
I know where I’d put my money. 😡
It will be interesting to see what happens – surely it is going to be hard to use the hostile rhetoric anymore? But then, there will be the inevitable outcry based on freedom of speech, and financed by the gun lobby.
But then the motivation for at least Democratic politicians can be no greater – they must be very worried (rightly so) about their personal safety.
813 Jen I’ll put two bob on that Jen.
814 Katielou For their own survival. The Democrats need to take a hard line on it.
This should stiffen their backbone. Blue Dogs won’t be immune from this either.
Giffords is a Blue Dog (well, that’s what Fox news called her).
Meanwhile Happy noo Year Rupert. NMaay the rays of sunshine shine further up your hole in 2011.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/max-mosley-joins-now-row-with-claims-of-blackmail-2179749.html#
817 Katielou I got the impression, due to Sarah Palin targeting her she was much more liberal than a Blue Dog.
Gifford is both a Blue Dog and in the New Democratic Coalition (more liberal).
speaking of Rupert, gaffhook@ 818 –
I am curious as to whether he willl reign in his bunch of crazies on Fox now – and even the likesof Bolt and Co. here ?
On one hand I doubt it, but then againhit doesn’t take much to link his minions to the politics of Hate both in the US and here – and no matter how much ducking and weaving they try to do the truth is slapping everyone in the face. Maybe the old bastard might find a shred of decency before his demise.
Evnin all. Good to see Firstdog’s back and biting hard as ever.
Keith Olbermann is also letting fly with a gem.
http://tinyurl.com/26j8twv
Jen “It doesn’t take much to link his minions to the politics of Hate both in the US and here” Spot on Jen. But will someone do it?
Bit slow with that one paddy.
Well Jen the pressure is coming back on the bastard and i would imagine he thought everything had gone quiet for him after he lined a few pockets with his millions.
It is going to be difficult to nail him with the tories in power but more mice are starting to squeak.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/09/andy-coulson-rupert-murdoch-phone-hacking
The images from Toowomba were shocking. Please stay safe all you Queenslanders. ABC News 24 this morning was demonstrably crap. These days I turn it off and listen to the radio – it’s the only place to get comprehensive news it seems. ABC News Radio and Radio National are 100x better than what ABC offers up as 24 hour news. It’s such a shame they seem to assume the viewer’s attention span is 15 seconds.
Sarah Palin’s Political Career May Already Be Over, But If It’s Not, It Should Be.
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Jane Hampshire nailed it…
More here..
http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/sarah-palins-political-career-may-already-be-over-but-if-its-not-it-should-be/
Photos from locals of Toowoomba flooding.
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/photos/galleries/toowoomba-flooding-101/#num=13&id=toowoomba-flooding-101
I think that we need to be careful about ascribing something that we hate as the cause of something else that we hate. While this guy may have been influenced by political rhetoric, there is no evidence that he was – he seems to be a disturbed individual who was mad at the congresswoman for not answering a question about the meaningless of language at a similar event three years ago.
Further, even if this person’s act of violence was triggered by political rhetoric, there are plenty of other potential triggers out there. For Charles Manson, the White album was sufficient; the Catcher in the Rye was good enough for another lunatic.
Article on some of the imlpications for Obama’s presidency for the Arizona shooting. Some interesting history aboutClinton and the Oklahoma bombing.
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/10/the-impact-on-obama-s-presidency.html
DG-
I think you are downplaying the extent and the extreme level of violent rhetoric that fills the US airwaves.
Even if it did not incite this particular individual ina gun-obsessed culture like the US the constant “call to arms” that is the obvious message -even if supposedly metaphorical- of the TeaParty and other right wing nutjobs is disturbing and should be silenced.
and I echo KatieLou’s message –
I hope you and your families are safe… this is devastating.
Jen,
I agree that it should be silenced. But linking this particular act to that rhetoric when there is no evidence that that link is valid is not the means to do so. Indeed, it may backfire – and I think it already has. When we overstate the case – or make a case that is manifestly false – our opponents get the opportunity to portray us as the extremists. The argument against violent imagery needs to be made on its own merits, not through using specific violent acts that are unrelated to it. The rise in threats of violence, for example, is a statistical fact that is a legitimate argument.
829 David Gould The FBI will sort that all out.
David. Its easy to say there is no evidence before it has been found.
Chris B,
But people are making these claims without evidence – as you say, it has not been found. If it is found, these claims can be made then.
You certainly can use logic to form an opinon.
I don’t know that anyone here is using uninformed logic.
David –
from what I have read most commentators are being very careful to not make an explicit link between this person’s crime and the violent rhetoric, however it has created the dialogue about the potential impact of such language on the social psyche, and the need for this to stop. And that has to be a good thing.
Jen,
Even making an implicit link is wrong when the implication is that this violent act was caused by the over-the-top rhetoric – an implication for which there is no evidence.
Chris B,
What premises have been used in this logic? To me, it is exactly the same ‘logic’ that is used in linking violent video games and movies to violence.
DG – do you think an assassin targetted a politician in a vacuum?
Excellent Slate article on the shooter, Giffords and the Tea Party – How anti-government, pro-gun, xenophobic populism made the Giffords shooting more likely.
http://www.slate.com/id/2280711/
Amazing video of rising waters in Toowoomba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUpkPTcqPY
Gabrielle Giffords’ Shooting: The Impact on Obama’s Presidency.
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More here..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-10/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-the-impact-on-obamas-presidency/?cid=hp:mainpromo3
Katielou,
No. But the fact is that he first approached this particular politician in 2007 and asked a question about the meaningless of language – nothing to do with healthcare, gun control, or any other issue. His friends reported that the non-answer to this question annoyed and frustrated him. He basically became a nihilist obsessed with language and grammar. It would seem to me that the most likely reason for his violence against this particular politician was this obsession. That is where the evidence points at the moment, at any rate.
No act takes place in a vacuum. But even though everything is connected that does not mean that you can draw a line between one thing and another and say, ‘This contributed to that,’ and have that statement be meaningful. Primary causes are the things that matter.
842 Katielou Amazing alright.
Jen and Ticsters Dear, us mob are all ok, thank you. Our local ISP recently struck off by lightning is now back in da bidness of conspiring to abet our great nation of cyber-criminals in dodging the GST 🙂 The deluge has been far worse for folks on the Darling Downs and elsewhere. Brisbane basin is rising fast. Amazing how most people pitch in and spontaneously help each other when the going gets tough. To witness altruism ascendant over vested interest warms the human heart.
Horrific as they are, fire and flood are the worst natural disasters we’ve had to deal with in Oz for the last couple of centuries. Mercifully we don’t have to live with the daily shock and awe of a filthy hegemonic war.
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/print/unrequited_love_20110109/
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Hammer Nailed with Can Time:
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/delay_gets_three-year_jail_sentence_20110110/
Repositioning a Culture of Complaint as a Culture of Hate.
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/print/bless_you_20110109/
Katielou,
The Slate article was good, until the last part. It had until that point made explicit that there is no evidence that this particular act was the result of violent rhetoric, instead saying that the odds of violence were being increased. But then it said:
“Today it is the right that amuses itself with violent chat and proclaims an injured innocence when its flammable words blow up.”
The thing is, there is no evidence that these flammable words *have* blown up. This last line is an attempt to directly link this particular act of violence with the rhetoric. There is no evidence for this. The fact that writers are making these claims is not helping our cause.
Palin’s Other Arizona ‘Targets’.
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More here…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-10/after-garbrielle-giffords-palins-other-arizona-targets-speak/?cid=hp:mainpromo4
Not necessarily David – the Right might be referring to the pressure it is facing (righly so, imo) in the wake of this incident. Palin (or her staff) have deleted her gun sight graphic. She’s deleted tweets talking about “reloading etc” – even the Right can see how bad it looks in the wake of Tuscon. IMO, this is exactly the debate that people should be having. Even if it is shown this one guy was not in any way provoked by the overblown political rhetoric – it’s the potential such rhetoric can have on unstable minds that is exactly relevant and appropriate.
Man Arrested For Threats Made To Michael Bennet’s (D-CO) Staffers.
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More here..
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/man-arrested-threats-made-michael-ben
849 Katielou Well Said.
It might not be my 1st choice in how the political debate is run. But hell, after all the crap from the right wingers and loonies over the last two years. Anything with in reason, that puts the Democrats in full control is good.
Per twitter – Brisbane’s west end is being evacuated.
Terror in Arizona: Just another ‘isolated incident’? Funny how that list keeps mounting.
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More here..
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/terror-arizona-just-another-isolated
Republican Rhetoric, Right-Wing Terror.
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Please don’t jump to any conclusions from this article.
More here…
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/republican-rhetoric-right-wing-terror
Brisbane River just broke its banks at West End and there’s a warning for Forest Hill.
Again via twitter,
“the ABC is saying if you leave in Strathpine or Caboolture, get out now. Apparently the water is going to be higher than 1974”
ABC ghraphic of the suburbs at risk in Brisbane. Oh shit.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/brisbane.htm
Obama to travel to Arizona for memorial.
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/obama-to-travel-to-arizona-for-memorial-20110111-19lt8.html
Like Bill Clinton after the Oklahoma Bombing. Obama is being very cautious. Rightly so.
Lord Mayor Campbell Newman just announced est. 6,500 properties across Brisbane will be flooded by Thursday.
Things look dire in Brisbane according to latest news on ABC Radio National.
Ecky, Flaneur, Gaffhook, Jaundiced View, Ferny Grover, Possum …and any others of our online northern compatriots whom I met with in Brisbame during Obi’s election… am hoping like hell you are all safe .
Fark! What a day!
Time for a cup of tea, a Beckett’s and a good lie down….
(passer-by to derelict enshelled in old-style metal garbage bin)
Pardon me, Sir, but are you waiting for Godot?
No schmuck, Katrina!
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They’re tryin’ to wash us away……
Mr. Hooker remembers the flood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GOCAC8FCqE
They’re tryin’ to wash us away………
Word on Canal sez tha Dixie Flyer ain’t gon’ make it through tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGs2iLoDUYE
Hang in there Brisbane, bereaved, drenched and deluged. And the rest of Squee-gee Oz.
The sun gon’ shine in yo’ back do’ one day.
Yessuh.
Ecky!!
Are you safe?
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Jen
It’s ok up here in Townsville, some 1500km north of Brisvegas by road.
We have had a lot of rain over the past two months and everything
is saturated and the dams are full and being let go.
We got another 65 mm of rain overnight and that’s about what is happening every other day.
Our biggest fear is that the coral Sea is 2 degrees warmer than has been measured before and that kind of usually turns in to a blow or two which is given a name.
Yes thanks, Jen. Min and Jnr and me are mercifully all home and snug. We’ve cleared the garage and are ready to help shelter the deluged and desperate should conditions worsen.
Despite the devastation, would rather endure this than what you had to go through with the fires last year.
Watching the footage tonight I don’t think that there is any difference Ecky . .. it is terrifying when we are reminded that human beings have no power when it comes to the full force of nature – and there is more to come, from the sound of the predictions.
Gaffers – glad you are safe.
Sheriff Dupnik spells it out again for the cerebrally-challenged Rubes of America.
“Sheriff: ‘Maybe They Could Pass A Law That Would Require That Every Child Have An Uzi In Their Crib’
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has made some controversial comments in the wake of Saturday’s shooting in his district. On Monday night, he was interviewed on “The CBS Evening News” with Katie Couric and defended his positions.
“If you are in law enforcement and you are not a right winger- you will get all kinds of heat from the right wing nuts,” he told Couric.
Later in the interview, he took issue with laws that allow the carrying of concealed or non-concealed weapons at all times.
“That’s the height of insanity,” Dupnik said. “I don’t know what else they can do. Maybe they could pass a law that would require that every child have an Uzi in their crib.”
(scroll down a bit for Dupnik/Couric short clip)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/jared-loughner-court_n_807096.html
FruitCom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI
“Now is not a time for panic, it is a time for us to stick together.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBOas7ZOd8&feature=related
C’mon Brisbane, C’mon Oz. Let’s all see what we’re made of.
Lot of desperate boat people about now, eh?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/11/3110839.htm
Looking at the floods from the safety of my couch on the TV down here in Vic, I really hope all you northern ticsters are safe.
It looks friggin horrible and my thoughts are with you all.
Take care. P.
869 Enemy Combatant Doesn’t matter how often I see that. It still gets a good laugh. Ronnie hasn’t lost his touch.
871 Same from me. To all you guys. Take care.
Obama Job Approval (US)
Approve 49.0%
Disapprove 43.0%
Jan. 09 / Gallup
IMHO i call it poetic justice. The greedy banks in their haste to rip off the mortagees had their contracts robo signed.
Now they are using these docos to try and screw the little person.
However it has come back to bite them on the arse and it is good to see Jack and Jill six pack have some kind of victory over the greedy bastards. It appears some sloppy work by the legal fraternity is trying to help prop the greedy bastards up as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/business/11lawyers.html?_r=2&ref=business
MySpace to slash workforce in half.
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More here..
http://www.theage.com.au/business/world-business/myspace-to-slash-workforce-in-half-20110112-19myh.html
On Arizona shooting – really worth a read. Critical of the right’s rhetoric but pointing out no one knows if it contributed to the shooting.
http://theamericanscene.com/2011/01/10/tone-versus-substance
Sheriff Dupnik blasts Limbaugh: ‘he is irresponsible’.
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I like the guy.
More here…
http://www.americablog.com/2011/01/sheriff-dupnik-blasts-limbaugh-he-is.html
Like him too, Chris. Straight shootin’ sheriffs in Arizona ain’t exactly thick on the ground.
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JA looks a tad drawn after his brief Court mention today but his message is lucid as a laser.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/11/julian-assange-wikileaks-execution-gantanamo
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Guess who’s just taken a 15% poll whacking?
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94649
Actually Reporter Doe was rolled into a morgue fridge about 20 years ago.
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94653
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94654
Liquefiable Assets:
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94664
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94632
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94638
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94640
Hot Dang! What is it with people who just can’t understand that firearms and the NRA are there to Protect & Serve ordinary Americans?
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94666
Like good ol’ Rush sez ‘n’ all…….
“My Daddy was a hate-monger…….then he became a miller.” 🙂
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/94671
Jan 11:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/jeff-danziger
Jan 11:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/pat-oliphant
Bloody hell! Anyone for a swim?
http://twitpic.com/3pavn3
Stay safe up there ticsters.
Right you are. paddy. Can’t believe the leadership Anna Bligh is providing in this crisis. Cambell Neuman has also exceeded expectations, imho. Gillard is doing her best but appears out of her depth(sorry) when viewed beside the State and City leaders.
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At Brisbane River’s surged edge today a vignette of human kindness.
Now if we could only bottle it!
~from Auntie online.
The scope of this tragedy is just too difficult for the AB “friggin” C to handle.
Gillard would do well to lose the botox… makes her look plastic and not genuine as compared to Anna Bligh – impressive.
George Smiley aka John Le Carre chats with Amy Goodman about Tony Blair deceiving the Brits into war and the Armed Madhouse that is America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSbCG08r64
Couldn’t sleep last night so watched all seven Chapters of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
Got totally sucked in all over again. Script, acting, story, direction and editing are all superb. Absolutely nothing is “Second Eleven” about this production. Wasn’t until I saw JLC in the Goodman i/view that I twigged how superbly Alec Guiness inhabited the author’s essence.
After a geek at “Tinker” one appreciates the chasm between the subtlety and sense of irony and nuance of top shelf Circus performers compared with the crassness of their Sep counterparts of the period.
looks like no stone will be left unturned in the witch hunt for a reason to get JA to Sepside for incarceration.
There are a few previous cases which will assist him in his defence, should they manage to seize/render him.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=125015
Let it all hang out JA. The sooner the better. Fuck em all.
And Jen, feminists will have my guts for garters but I can’t stand it anymore!
Julia, lose the god-damned purple Dame Edna jacket. In a disaster, gear like that is best set aside for pantomines. Check out what your new best friend Anna Bligh has donned and thread up accordingly. Have a gander what your old mate Kevvy is up to in Windsor while you’re at it. Yesterday Campbell Neuman was doing grabs in the rain ffs.
We don’t want no steekin’ fashion statement. We want to see you muck in and mean it. This is what leaders do in crises. Remember what Betty Windsor’s Mum did after the bombing blitz of London.
You’re DOING the part just fine, Julia. When one is trying to communicate with emotionally frazzled people, you have to LOOK the part too, Prime Minister.
*wistfully removes marker fron Virginia Woolf novel and continues reading*
From October 2009 but it is all relevant IMHO.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=125003
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gaffy, good article here on JA and his legal team from today’s Crikey
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/01/12/assange-legal-teams-skeleton-argument-on-strong-ground/#comments
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Ecky, having just watched the Kevvie footage.
http://bit.ly/h2R1Ub
I’d have to agree. Jules has looked and sounded like a badly dressed robot over the last few days.
Anna Bligh and Campbell Neuman have been outstanding.
However…..My thoughts are with the poor souls in Qld, as word has leaked out that Tony Abbott is on his way. 🙁
Geezus Paddy – like they’re not suffering enough.
As for feminists having your guts Ecky – not this one .
Jules is wet (pardon the pun) and she looks fake, stilted and more worried about her televisoion image than what is happening around her.
She is no leader IMO.
which means Abbott can only benefit- which is fucked.
None ofwhich matters right now given the loss of so much , including lives. But at times like this we need a leader-
and Kevin and Anna look the most genuine right now.
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Paddy
That sure sounds a bit comforting for sure.
I am still a bit iffy about whether it would be easier for the seppos to get him from the UK rather than Sweden.
His legal eagles have to be on their game.
Kev with his dacks and sleeves rolled up humping bags on top of his head is what it is all about. Getting down and dirty.
He was apparantly still going at midnight last night and was up early today and fronting a media interview at 6am. Good on him.
Julia needs to fuck off all of her advisors and start fresh with half a dozen Gaffhooks, ECs, Paddys’ and Jens.
One of my nephews moved in to a house in Graceville on Monday, was told to evacuate on Tuesday. Went back and got his furniture early Wednesday morning. Rental house went under apparently but he and family and furniture safe high and dry in Jindalee. 🙁
On Julia – firstly the botox issue – Anna Bligh is botoxed (she admits it), and I think obviously more than Julia. That’s not the problem, imo.
The issue is she’s just not natural in her presentation – in appearance and voice. She always sounds like she’s reading from a cue card – if she could only show some natural emotion and inflection in her voice and facial expressions.
And I think that carries through to her dress – overall, she’s just too stitched up.
Why Julia?
Bligh and Rudd have come across as real and genuine people.
This piece makes a good point re Arizona shooting. Rather than be so concerned about the violent rhetoric, the right is to blame for promoting a paranoid culture.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/11/AR2011011105685.html
John Birmingham sums up the difference between Anna Bligh and Julia Gillard well, I think.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/has-anna-bligh-earned-herself-a-second-chance/20110113-19ojm.html
Just to let you know I’ve exchanged tweets with Ferny Grover and all is well with him.
Sarah Palin Presidential Odds Plummet On InTrade After Arizona Shooting.
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I suspect the Republican odds are heading in the same direction.
More here…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/sarah-palins-presidential-odds-intrade_n_806667.html
Julian Assange: WikiLeaks Has ‘Insurance Files’ On Rupert Murdoch, News Corp.
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Let ’em out! Let ’em out!
More here…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/assange-wikileaks-murdoch-files_n_808086.html
Hillary Clinton Labels Arizona Shooter An Extremist ‘Motivated By His Own Political Views’
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Go Hillary!
More here…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/hillary-clinton-arizona-shooter_n_806259.html
Maybe Hillary will be leading the charge, while Obama stays above the fray.